InfoH Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 hmm that sucks for your friend but i guess its their house, their rules.. as for the poster above mine, why must you be so immature with what you post? that kinda attitude that give the complete wrong impression, I dont know you didnt mean anything by it, but just by reading it it comes across as very immature Link to post Share on other sites
StarMonkee Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Still though if they police destroy his RIF surely they'll be destroying private property and be held liable? Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 We can't be too hard on the parents...they pay the bills, and own the house, they should have final say on whats in the house. If I lived with someone who didn't like guns then I would have to respect their wishes (especially if they owned the property and were letting me live there for free).... We have all got a soft spot for firearms, or we wouldn't be doing what we do! however, like everything else not everyone likes the same thing. As for public places....I can see alot of confusion with that description....did you know the glove box of your car is considered public domain, unless its locked? Your garden, while being on private property is also considered public domain! Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sad day indeed when you have to keep your legal possessions out of site in your own home from fear of having the police destroy them or try and charge you. Agreed. Ok. Spoke to my mate and have got the facts a bit clearer. Seems like his parent are not very keen on guns.................Seems more of a case of ignorance and 'parents know best' are the culprit. Combined with the police's drastic 'lets cover our arses' attitude have resulted in my mate being 'fired' from airsoft. Is still into airsoft I'd suggest him getting a safe from now on. (And not a cheap one either ...Not Like I have :/) Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome Pete Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Ghost snipers though maybe immature probably begins to sum up how my mate is feeling (but only begins ). Its sods law, lifes a *badgeress*, pigs dead soldier on. But yeah it is a shame for him, all because of some noesy bluddy window cleaner who shouldn't have been ona ladder in the first place. Meh. Terminator 2 on ITV 2 oooooo Link to post Share on other sites
DazJW Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 How old is he? I'd never let my parents get away with that. Link to post Share on other sites
FallenGuard Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Maybe he could try to make a Deal with his Parents, store the AEGs at a Friend's House or something. Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Maybe he could try to make a Deal with his Parents, store the AEGs at a Friend's House or something. Agreed, he should move them to a friends house and not give his parents a chance to turn them in. That way he will hopefully have time to convince his parents about their legality. Nothing his parents can do if they are no longer at their residence. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 The other issue is...who paid for these guns? Are they skirmishable quality etc? If they want rid, why not let him have the opportunity to pass them on? Sorry, I cant condone the parents at all here. Sounds like a stupid pig-blind attitude just to prevent them having to talk to their kids. God forbid they pull themselves away from the scaremongering BS that passes for TV these days to actually sit down and say "Look, you went out and bought this thing. Why? You tell me why you like it and Ill tell you why I dont like it" etc. If they dont like guns, why let him buy them in the first place? Sounds very overreactionary and hypocritical to me. Link to post Share on other sites
DazJW Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 It's kinda understandable, their child has something and they've just been told by a police officer that it's illegal. They're probably having a panic they've got "illegal" replica guns in their house. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Hyde Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I think the parents are utterly ###### myself. Not only is the kid losing his guns, that's bad enough, but he has to know that the police are destroying them, man that would do a number on me. This is ######s, 100% home grown ######s. If fact, I am thinking about sending a gun to this poor lad. Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome Pete Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Haha. Yeah i offered to look after them but once they get theyre minds made up uno. meh. Shudnt worry about it guys. If he gets allowed to a site ill lend him my M60 Link to post Share on other sites
Krispy101 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Damn, sorry to hear that Pete I too would send him one of my guns but I only have one at the moment *cries* But damn, I sure would try and speak to the parents first try and compromise like at least selling the gun instead of destroying it, and then the parents (if they paid for it ) getting the money, if not, the kid getting the money for it to spend on something not airsoft related Sorry to hear for this loss in the airsoft world D: Kris Link to post Share on other sites
wolfspider Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Im very sorry this has happened to your friend, as others have stated above parents can be very over-reactionry to most things that are deemed unsavory by the media/goverment. I once saw a parent stop their child having a go at a foam pugil stick game(Like on Galdiators) at a fair deeming it was "too aggressive". PC parents gotta, love them If mine had taken the same attitude as your friends, I would never have got into airsoft in the first place Just out of interest how old is your friend? Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome Pete Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 He is 17. Obviously i don't wanna discuss his personal family life on here but I do agree. Oh well, when he's 18 he'll have his own rights (to an extent). cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
dliberty Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 1) if the police ever kicked in my door for anything short of having a no knock warrant to search for drugs, slaves, guns or childporn i would get myself a lawyer and see to it that 75% of the police force in my town quit or stuck around just long enough to get themselves fired. 2) if the police ever demanded i turn in anything from inside my home i would require them to charge me with a crime for its possesion 3) your friend should remind his parents that when theyr "ripe" and need to be put in a retirement home that he will be the one supporting them, and that payback can be a *badgeress*. Link to post Share on other sites
ghostsniper995 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 although imature i beleive i have a point *acting mature* lol not realy i have the mental age of a 10 year old Link to post Share on other sites
wolfspider Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 3) your friend should remind his parents that when theyr "ripe" and need to be put in a retirement home that he will be the one supporting them, and that payback can be a *badgeress*. And I bet yours love you to Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 He's 17!!! $h1t, I thought we were discussing a 12 year old or something....damn, 17.....ok, so this sucks. His parents should be ashamed....its things like this that cause unnecessary rifts between parents and "children"......still, 17, he should be in sixth form college by now, not taking this kinda ######?!?! Surely he can simply take the RIFs to a friends and be done with storage issues....at 17, in my house, I would have simply said "ok, so you don't want them here, I'll move them!"..... ....nah, theres something fishy here...unless the guys a retard or something, no offence, but this stuff don't happen when your 17, man.... edit: we got ourselves a candidate for a 40 year old virgin, right there! Link to post Share on other sites
ghostsniper995 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 He's 17!!! $h1t, I thought we were discussing a 12 year old or something....damn, 17.....ok, so this sucks. His parents should be ashamed....its things like this that cause unnecessary rifts between parents and "children"......still, 17, he should be in sixth form college by now, not taking this kinda ######?!?! Surely he can simply take the RIFs to a friends and be done with storage issues....at 17, in my house, I would have simply said "ok, so you don't want them here, I'll move them!"..... ....nah, theres something fishy here...unless the guys a retard or something, no offence, but this stuff don't happen when your 17, man.... edit: we got ourselves a candidate for a 40 year old virgin, right there! thats what i though too, no offence my mum completely supports airsofting she bought me my first gun and lent me the money for my L96 she even got her friend who was in the S.A.S. to teach me how to shoot when i was about 12 how cool is that Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome Pete Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sorry he's 16 (nearly 17). He dont own the house and he aint 18 so. meh anyway think all has been said that needs to be here. cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
dliberty Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 its not love, its mutual respect. Link to post Share on other sites
wolfspider Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 There is nothing respectful about saying "just wait until you get old and have to go in a home, i'm going to remember some petty argument we had when I was a teenager and make your last years on earth a living hell" If at 17 something like this happened to me, I would remove the guns from the house myself and store them with a friend, not that I spent much time at college when I was 17 Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 reading between the lines I get impression his guns were there on sufferance - "all right you can have those bloody things but we're warning you now any bother whatsoever relating to them and their gone". Bother duly appears in shape of a window cleaner and el parentos then enforce the "our house our rules we told you so" option. If he's sat at home in their house guess he can decide wether its worth moving out over. As far as the police are concenred they'd be within their rights to seize pending forensic tests to establish their legality Ownership of an overpowered weapon is an offence in itself and a favourite cover your *albartroth* tactic. not alot you can do if they play that card other than to insist on a receipt and make it clear that you expect theitems returned at end of the tests. If they're legit you'll get them back provided A you can put up with the endless wait (aything upto 6 montsh or more) andB you're willing to dig your heel in when they come round with a filled out surrender notice lookingfor your signature - "nopes sorry I aint signing that if they're checked out and legal Im having them back thanks." If it turn outs they arent legal then they may offer you the chance of signing the surrender order as an alternative to prosecution - dependingon your circmstances that might well prove the path of least resistance. In this case I see no grounds for immediately demanding destruction. The guns havent been involved in an offence at most might just constitute an offence themselves (only verifiable via examination and testing as pe above) Most likey el parentos have decided they want them gone rid of and accepted that safe disposal suggestion from the local plod. Im also not sure how much right of independent ownership an under 18 has to these sort of items these days - ie can they actualy own them or is it merely ownership based on consent of a responsible adult/parent/guardian (ie extension of the 'only an over 18 can now buy an under 18 an IF they cant buy it themselves' aspect of VCRA). If so and parent has withdrawn that consent not sure the minor has any real right to dispute that? Removing them from the house without parents say so and handing them to a mate could then be seen as theft (much the same if little timmy helped himself to the 42"plasma mummy and daddy have in the living room and handed it to crazy gary accross the street in exchange for a couple of video games el parentos were refusing to buy him) Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome Pete Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thankyou snorkleman. Hit the nail on the head and wrapped it up. Thanks for all the input guys, been most helpful. Shows a real passion for the sport that u guys have (which is great ). Ive said all i have to on the matter and am not willing to discuss anything else on here since its out of my hands and a personal family feud. However, the infomation u guys have given has been educational and i have informed my mate, however i doubt it will do much good. Maybe a nights sleep will clear the inviduals in question head's. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
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