FINALLY! An Airsoft Kriss

[aeviv]

i know i could well get flamed for this, but sorry, what the hell is a KRISS?

[thartwig]

...this is going to interfere with my plans of gettin one of ICS's next offerings

 

 

I really hope this turns out great. If its released and reviewed by one of Arnies staff before ICS releases their FNC or Galil, i will definetly get this first.

[Bareknuckle]

I thought the Kriss was awesome ever since I saw Epyon's custom one, but I never thought I'd be able to own one!

 

I think half of the appeal is the gun's futuristic and unique looks, and the other half is that it will be one of the few current-production gas SMGs, and it has a good chance of not sucking.

[choffman10]

i know i could well get flamed for this, but sorry, what the hell is a KRISS?

Here's all the info on the KRISS Super V, quite the modern looking little gun.

 

To say the least, a KRISS is the last gun I would think would be released. You've got to give Madbull a lot of credit for being original and creative.

[Magsz]

A kriss is a type of sword.

[Chris North]

Like a claymore?

 

Pretty interesting, looking forward to see how it turns out. I'm not really a fan of the Kriss though...

[Nox Invictus]

I can see a lot of Multicam users fielding this gun. What with the FDE color scheme, it looks like it'd be right at home in the hands of someone wearing Multicam on a CQC field.

 

I love Madbull. Hopefully they'll treat us right on the price and design for this thing.

[Victory]

Who wants to guess on the price?

 

I'll say $400.00.

 

-Vic

[Bizurkur]

for a GBB with only internal moving parts?

I pray it wont hit that high, for all of our sakes.

[Hispeed1]

+ 1 for Madbull

[lin_pointer]

i say 150$-200$ for criss and 350$-400$ for co2 m16

[Victory]

for a GBB with only internal moving parts?

I pray it wont hit that high, for all of our sakes.

 

As do I...but their M470 was about $200.00...and it didn't work all that well.

 

-Vic

 

[uscmCorps]

I'd be surprised if it was less than US$200. I'd be horrified if it was US$400ish. That would hurt sales. Plus once the cloners get their hands on it and reproduce it for $115... $400 would be a very hard sell. US$225-275 would be about right.

[snorkelman]

Im surprised manufacturers dont just post prices on airsoft news

 

"XYZA corp is pleased to announce we'll be making a new gun and it'll cost 350 bucks details of the gun itself to be announced later".

 

as it stands more and more all we see is it'll be X price 'cos thats what i want it to be/cos thats what Ive just counted out as being contents of the cookie jar'

 

before we know it everyones talked the spec up to 'it'll be awesome even though they've never made a gas blow back SMG before' while talking the price down to 'it'll be two bucks twenty and a pickle' ...and then 90 percent of them throw a hissy fit at time of release when the price isnt what they plucked out of their own *albatross* at random two months before, and the gun dont shoot a bb for 3 miles at 300 FPS with the kick of a barret

 

talk about setting yourselves up for a disappointment! when it comes to price wait and see - or at least assume the worst and always end up pleasantly surprised - it'll be 999 bucks and the BBs will roll out the front of the barrel

 

[thartwig]

thats an interesting way to think about it. But i couldnt agree more, we dont know what to expect so expect the worse. But seriously...$400??? Thats just stupid on madbull's part if they do sell it for that much.

[Xsjado]

I think that'd be quite reasonable for a high quality, unique weapon. People already pay more than than for otherwise pretty generic guns so why shouldn't something like this cost that bit extra as well?

[thartwig]

Because the generic weapons of which you speak of, usually comprise of large ammounts of metal, are custom, or are limited edition (not mass produced). The only way the Kriss should cost nearly $400, is if Madbull only made a limited quantity.

[RSP1]

Because the generic weapons of which you speak of, usually comprise of large ammounts of metal, are custom, or are limited edition (not mass produced). The only way the Kriss should cost nearly $400, is if Madbull only made a limited quantity.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to find some milled parts in the Kriss with good internals. Considering also that Madbull will likely need to design a lot of new stuff for this gun vs. just taking a V3 gearbox and shoving it in the usual AK, M4, etc. stuff with existing molds $400 would not surprise me. If it can perform on the level of a $400 VFC and has external/internal quality of said $400 gun, it'll be a really great buy.

[felix4536]

ITS ALREADY OUT!!! LOOK AT THE PIX

 

 

 

JK JK this guy EPYON on ASR made it from a G18. here is the link to the forum

 

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index...topic=49814.100

[RSP1]

JK JK this guy EPYON on ASR made it from a G18. here is the link to the forum

 

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index...topic=49814.100

 

Whoa, whoa! This guy EPYON?!?

 

Wouldn't it be funny if he had started this thread? He could have made a joke about it being the second, and everything!

 

[felix4536]

i have failed

[Epyon]

 

 

I would definitely purchase the Madbull. If nothing else, for the photo op.

I really like the look of the earlier prototypes, not as "busy" looking as the finalized version. I wouldn't be too thrilled about getting back into gas-powered either.

[Bizurkur]

 

 

that basically sums up this page

 

 

I'd honestly rather have an AEG KRISS, but meh, can't be too picky.

[Xsjado]

Because the generic weapons of which you speak of, usually comprise of large ammounts of metal, are custom, or are limited edition (not mass produced). The only way the Kriss should cost nearly $400, is if Madbull only made a limited quantity.

Sorry I took your post the wrong way. I thought you meant $400 was too much.

[uscmCorps]

I was thinking about prices more from the angle of... how much other GBB SMGs on the market cost nowadays. For example:

* the KSC TMP/SPP costs $170-190

* Hudson U.S. M3A1 costs $140-160

* Marushin MP40 costs $230

* Marushin Super Enforcer Maxi 8mm costs $248

* Maruzen M11 costs $110-167

* Maruzen MP5K costs $145

* Maruzen UZI Pistol costs $99

 

So while I'd be willing to pay a premium (like $400) for a high-end GBB KRISS, I'd also think it would be difficult for Madbull to break into an area of the airsoft market in which most GBB SMGs cost $110-250. That being said, while not SMGs, WA and TK are trying something similar with their M4 GBBs which are expected to not be cheap either... however, it has yet to be seen how well their own sales will do upon release.

 

Other things that need to be noted is, as you can see from this thread alone, public opinion about the aesthetics of the KRISS are extreme ends of love and hate. People seem to either really like it or they really don't. That's a pretty strong contrast to most gun announcements out there, as the most "hate" you normally see is when a manufacturer rolls out another M4 variant. And people don't groan about that because they hate the M4, just that they want to see something new (in most cases anyway). So another problem Madbull faces is that while there's a big fan following for the KRISS, there's also a huge contingent of players that adamantly abhor it. So right there their group of potential buyers is dramatically reduced.

 

Don't get me wrong, whatever the price, I'd probably buy it. I have never had a problem spending top dollar on any of my guns in the past. However, my spending habits aren't typical in the airsoft community. So unless Madbull are indeed aiming at the minority group like myself, they'll have to lower their prices a bit to see stronger sales.

 

Of course, even more factors come into play, such as licensing by TDI to Madbull to produce such a replica. Also tooling costs, material costs, labor costs, minimum quantities, profit margins, etc etc. Lot's of factors all of which have a direct impact on the final consumer price.