druid799 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 You may want to upgrade your gears for long term reliability, I've seen a set of Socom Gears ruined by a 7.4 1500 Lipo. Eny chance of a bit more detail please mate , had eny thing been done to the Socom prior to running it on Lipo ? reason I ask I've been running my Socom on a 7.4v 2200 lipo for about a year now with absolutely no effect on it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 The delta ring on the Sopmod is not a real delta ring, you won't need the Guarder Wrench for it. It's just a mask held in place by screw on the bottom. There is the dummy 'cog shaped' part which holds the delta ring spring in place, but as you probably know, just removing that piece by taking out the screw doesn't allow you to swap barrels. @ TK4235 - Are you actually trying to remove/change your outer barrel? If so, the nut that TM uses to hold the OB on is very much like the buffer tube castle nut, so you can just use the same tool for both. That's what I've always done. R.e. 7.4 li-po batteries, really shouldn't be a problem. Depends on your C rating of course but generally they're not that much more powerful than an 8.4v NiMh, shouldn't really cause issues with stock TM gearbox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 whats the difference between the 7.4v and the 8.4v? is there an advantage to using a lipo battery? How can the 7.4 lipo be stronger than the 8.4 since 8.4 is at a higher voltage? is it the difference in current? sorry, I never used a lipo before or know much about them. How do these sopmod/socoms handle 7.4 lipos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) whats the difference between the 7.4v and the 8.4v? is there an advantage to using a lipo battery? How can the 7.4 lipo be stronger than the 8.4 since 8.4 is at a higher voltage? is it the difference in current? sorry, I never used a lipo before or know much about them. How do these sopmod/socoms handle 7.4 lipos? Not much if the output rate is the same. I recommend this article: http://infectedairsoft.wordpress.com/tech-info/lithium-polymer-batteries-part-1/ 20C makes 7.4v MUCH better. Of course, it depends on how much the motor can draw from the battery. Edited August 9, 2011 by adadqgg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'm running 7.4V myself, no problems. The Socom in question was stock, I guess it was just bad luck. I'm just saying, if he's going to push his gun a little bit up, he may want to look into it. IIRC it was the sector gear that got stripped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yeah i think we all know by now the sopmod / socom gears are pretty rubbish, its not specifically lipos which break them its simply bad luck / inevitability that cuases it, just a single tooth falls off the sector gear and the last release tooth wears. For those on the budget the 24.99 hornbill ones are there, simple becuase they are much stronger than the tm ones and cheaper than buy 3 new TM gears ! As always ever since the sopmod came out its been about making sure that every time theres a problem / issue im on it like stink on *suitcase* with a solution. Thus from the get go everyones had confidence in buying sopmods and players continue to get them at an increasing rate becuase even if theres an issue theres also a solution and all i have to do is keep players informed. Thats why i got the hornbill, no one can argue at the price if they are on a budget. If they arnt on a budget theres lonex and promtheus gears also. As players can atest too, the gears in most cases will last over a year even on a lipo. But regardless thats the solution just incase. As for the wrenches, sure they are hard too keep stock of but i truely recommend the laylax as the best wrench becuase it has two functiions and at somepoint you will have to tighten the front end delta ring with the laylax wrench becuase of barrel wobble. Another handy tool is an allen key for the front sight. as it gets wobbly after a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robi Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 okay does anyone know where to get a LayLax Wrench? Seems to be sold out everywhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Wow, had no idea the SOPMOD stock gesr were that bad... I mean on a £400 AEG you would think they would have put steel gears in? When my gears strip, i'll go for the Prommy ones, may aswell.... would love a full tune up kit too....lol On a serious note though, what are the best internal upgrades available at present? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 BTW, just to get this out of my system.... THE RANGE IS AWESOME on this baby!!!! Ok, feel better for saying that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arne71 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 The Prommy parts are what you`d like to have. And an Eagle6 spring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 has anyone ever tried installing real steel m4 handguards on the SOCOM (or any AEG for that matter)? Is there a reason why it does/does not work? the real m4 handguards are made of some sort of polymer, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Did I just read that TM still has not fixed barrel wobble on a FULL-METAL m4??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Did I just read that TM still has not fixed barrel wobble on a FULL-METAL m4??? Theres no barrel wobble on the sopmod m4, you must have misread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Real M4 handguards will fit but you will have to remove the the heat shields to fit a battery in them, as far as I know. @Adadqgg, different cause of barrel wobble from the old multi-piece plastic M4s, this would be due to loosening of the barrel nut proper from vibration and the user applying torque to the assembly while operating. A tight nut on a shimmed barrel will not wobble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 @mega Thanks mega, i might try to find some real m4 handguards and do that I have not noticed any barrel wobble on my TM sopmod. I literally held it from its flash hider/barrel end to support the other end of the gun and it's still as solid as a rock. not something i would do often though That being said, will the SOCOM's barrel be as rigid as the sopmod's barrel even though it doesn't have the RIS rail support of the sopmod? Im planning on putting a bottom handguard rail and then attaching a RIS-mounted m203... bad idea? i dont have a barrel mounted m203 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHIFF_MoA Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yes, both will be as ridgid as eachother. The ridgidity comes from the barrel, there's no flex with or without the RIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) sweet! now to look for an ar15 handguard for it.... edit: I've been doing a little searching and i've read a few old threads saying that TM m4s cannot fit real steel handguards without modification. However, I think they were referring to the old m4s and not the SOPMOD or the SOCOM. Can I fit the handguards on without any modifications on this socom? I dont want to assume before buying. I've been looking at these handguards: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/M4-Handguards-Black-p/bcm%20handguards%20m4%20black.htm http://www.parts4ar15.com/ar-15_accessories/product/BL-HGM4.html Which one is the best one?! will they be able to hold the 8.4v battery? Is it hard to remove the heat shields? Edited August 11, 2011 by Honzo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 TM SOCOM, RS MOE handguards: If they work, so will the standard USGI plastic handguards you've linked to. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Need more pics of that, Kthxbye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 CK, that looks superb. May I ask, why the two optics? I can see the aimpoint in the front, but what's that behind it? Also, the rifle looks superb! Love the 2tone... Can anything similar be done to the SOPMOD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krazeh Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 May I ask, why the two optics? I can see the aimpoint in the front, but what's that behind it? Looks like an aimpoint 3x magnifier on flip to side mount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robi Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Im not a big fan of the Magpul M4s but this M4 looks great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I've actually had the gun for going on 2 years now, it's already in this thread somewhere way back. Just thought I'd post up that picture to make the point about fitting the handguards. Optics - Krazeh is correct. Aimpoint style 3x type magnifier, Bomber replica of the LaRue FTS mount. Customising SOPMODS - Well yeah definitely, it is an M4 end of the day. You're a bit limited on choices of stocks with the SOPMOD/CQB-R/RECCE, but other than that there's an absolute shed load of parts out there available that you can fit. Pistol grips, different length barrels, rails/handguards, gas blocks, flash hiders, optics and other 20mm rail attachments galore. Pick your poison basically. All my other photos are publicly viewable on photobucket for those interested in looking. Here's one album, you can access all the others via that: http://s805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/ckinnerley/Airsoft%20Guns%204/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) GOOD LAWD THATS A BEAUTY!... Edit: is that two TM socoms I see in those pictures, CK? Edited August 11, 2011 by Honzo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Depends which pictures you're referring to really, I've got 3 SOCOMs at the moment. The 10.5" I posted above was my second purchase, my original still has the stock TM 14.5" barrel and a CASV handguard, my latest one is a 12" barrel with 10" MRF rail. They're all in there within the various albums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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