somegirls Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) thanks Wetti. Glad AB hasn't answered my mail so I can still cancel my order. No need for those barrels than. Do you have an MSRP on the chrome ones? But why in the world can't you guys clearly point out, that these barrels are the ones everybody is actually talking about?? (the chrome ones) I'm kinda feeling fooled here. Every time a new part shows up it either doesn't do anything, it's not what people take it for (like these barrels and the Co2 capability of the steel nozzles) or they appear from the site the next day. I don't think buyers get too thrilled about that. Edited April 9, 2009 by somegirls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theprodigy Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 that explains why its a 10dollar price tag. side note, my bolt has a half moon crack at the top rear position, but the crack kinda looks like it's suppose to be there, is this normal? In other words it looks like a clean cut like it was machined that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theprodigy Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 i just emailed AB to cancel my current order for the LAT piston head and nozzle, he hasn't sent me an email that they're shipped yet. I'm going to wait for all the other parts to roll in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 But why in the world can't you guys clearly point out, that these barrels are the ones everybody is actually talking about?? (the chrome ones) I guess the flip side of that coin is why cant we wait a week or two to see rather than jump in and order stuff the minute its released Cant help but think that when it comes to this current crop of gas guns bragging rights will go to those who had enough self control to wait until they're finished, rather than the early adopters who tear their hair out (and yep Im guilty of it too lol). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 i have been waiting for a long time too. at this point, im not all to sure if i should adopt a WE M4 when the V3 comes out or a G&P WOC. or just forget about them and get a TSI Tavor when they finally come out... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Mines In customs at the mo, and whilst it may need some tinkering I am glad to have bought one and joined the ever growing band of GBB rifle affectionados. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukvdh Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I received my order of spare parts and upgrade parts from AirsoftBuddy. I was astonished to see the user is supposed to glue some o-rings to the enhanced piston head. This is not mentioned with the item info. I'm not really happy with this. Also NOW (for 1 day, before this was NOT mentioned) it says : "Parts #122 for WE Gas Blow Back M4 Selling in each, not 5pcs" But the picture still shows 5 pieces and the description still says partS (with an S). So I expected to receive 5 pieces. I'm not really happy with this. I just wanted to share this info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4boost Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I just watched the piston head video. Super glue to hold the o-ring guides in place? Whoa.......not cool. I like how they addressed the problem of the piston head and 'op rod' getting so cold that it would stop moving - the metal got so cold it would stick. (Krytox helped this problem in my gun). In this design, the 'op rod' is running through rubber o-rings as the guide - less metal to metal contact, so freezing will be less of an issue. But supergluing them in place? No way. LAME. I didn't super glue mine... The rear o-ring gets sandwiched between the piston head and the brass bushing (which oddly enough doesn't seem to be on the parts diagram...). I did not install the front o-ring...I don't really think it's needed. I'm going to shoot a couple hundred rounds with this to see if it is a decent upgrade. As of right now, I would recommend buying the stabilizer as this takes ALL the guess work out of centering the valve assembly and makes everything rock solid. I don't see how the valve could come off center with it installed as even if the valve screw #36 comes loose, the stabilizer is such a snug fit that it will keep the valve assembly in place. I'm going to be updating the wiki with reviews on any of the upgrades I have installed so far. If anyone else would like to contribute their review on any aftermarket parts (or anything else WEM4 related) and you haven't signed up on the wiki, apply for membership (be sure to state what you'd like to add), and I'll approve you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redline Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I didn't super glue mine... The rear o-ring gets sandwiched between the piston head and the brass bushing (which oddly enough doesn't seem to be on the parts diagram...). I did not install the front o-ring...I don't really think it's needed. I'm going to shoot a couple hundred rounds with this to see if it is a decent upgrade. As of right now, I would recommend buying the stabilizer as this takes ALL the guess work out of centering the valve assembly and makes everything rock solid. I don't see how the valve could come off center with it installed as even if the valve screw #36 comes loose, the stabilizer is such a snug fit that it will keep the valve assembly in place. I'm going to be updating the wiki with reviews on any of the upgrades I have installed so far. If anyone else would like to contribute their review on any aftermarket parts (or anything else WEM4 related) and you haven't signed up on the wiki, apply for membership (be sure to state what you'd like to add), and I'll approve you. Thanks 4boost, lookiin' forward to those pictures. I ordered the stabilizer piece...but it does not fit..are the curved sides supposed to be up against the inner wall of the bolt carrier? If so, that's the problem for me...I have a "micro ledge" on the inside of my bolt carrier (not cnc'd correctly) that prevents the stabilizer from sliding all the way to the bottom. I have to sand the stabilizer first, I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I guess the flip side of that coin is why cant we wait a week or two to see rather than jump in and order stuff the minute its released Cant help but think that when it comes to this current crop of gas guns bragging rights will go to those who had enough self control to wait until they're finished, rather than the early adopters who tear their hair out (and yep Im guilty of it too lol). Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 check news Exclusively available from WETTI, our new CO2-operated M4A1, M16A3 & M4CQBR will be in stock & ready to ship within 15 days. All dealers inquiries & orders welcomed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 News flash: Our new M16A3 & M4 CQBR (regular gas version) will start shipping next week Features: - one-piece, full steel barrels on both models - regular gas-type steel nozzle standard on both (in fact, it'll be standard on ALL AWSS 'regular gas' platforms) - new design 'Gen 2' hop-up system 6.03mm precision barrel (brass) standard on all platforms - RS-spec., anodized 7" rail system standard on M4CQBR (a WETTI exclusive) - new, strengthen charging handle standard on all models - anodized bodies on all models (a WETTI exclusive) WETTI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 New flash: Exclusively available from WETTI, our new CO2-operated M4A1, M16A3 & M4CQBR will be in stock & ready to ship within 15 days. All dealers inquiries & orders welcomed. Features: - new, CO2-compatible 'locking' steel nozzle/brass housing internals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuLNKwAPXsY) - 12g CO2 capsule-operated 30-rds magazine - all other specs. same as our regular gas models. WETTI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redline Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 So does this mean C02 mags and seperate C02 internals will be ready as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 So does this mean C02 mags and seperate C02 internals will be ready as well? The CO2 upgrade kit will be available from dealers as soon as our current orders (on full packages) are filled. I'll keep everyone updated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Can you now give a statement on how we are able to choose the fps rate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4boost Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'd like to know what is involved in upgrading to the CO2 version. Also, once we upgrade, are we still compatible with the original green gas mags? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wraithxt1 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'd like to know what is involved in upgrading to the CO2 version. Also, once we upgrade, are we still compatible with the original green gas mags? This is a very important question for me. If I cant use my green gas mags I had might as well not bother. If I can use green gas mags, I'm going to sell my M4 and snag one of those M16A3s! So sexy! I'm a bit worried about the FPS difference between the m16 length barrel and the m4 length barrel though. The gun already shoots WAY too hot to use in a skirmish, and I'd have to figure out if I could get the co2 valve down to 300 fps on green and or propane before I buy. Any thoughts WETTI? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Can you now give a statement on how we are able to choose the fps rate? Like before, the fps rate will depend on part #42. However, we're considering the implementation of color-coded nozzle assembly to distinguish the fps rates. Of course I'm taking about factory-assembled units for sale as options. Once this is finalized, I'll announce it here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theprodigy Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 that explains why its a 10dollar price tag. side note, my bolt has a half moon crack at the top rear position, but the crack kinda looks like it's suppose to be there, is this normal? In other words it looks like a clean cut like it was machined that way. no one else has seen this then i take it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redline Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 no one else has seen this then i take it can you post a pic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wraithxt1 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Like before, the fps rate will depend on part #42. However, we're considering the implementation of color-coded nozzle assembly to distinguish the fps rates. Of course I'm taking about factory-assembled units for sale as options. Once this is finalized, I'll announce it here. Out of curiosity, will a nozzle that shoots 500 fps on green still shoot at 500 fps on CO2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 don't think its been asked yet so to clear up any potential misunderstandings, will the 'couple of conversion parts to allow a green gas version to run the CO2' mags actually turn the green gas gun into same spec as an out of the box CO2 one, or will the CO2 one have additional changes/improvements over and above the parts needed for a green gas to CO2 'conversion'? eg just wondering if we'll end up with green gas guns green gas guns converted to CO2 mag use CO2 guns or green gas guns CO2 guns (out of the box or 'CO2 converted from green gas' being exactly the same) If there are going to be differences between 'out of the box CO2' and a 'green gas converted to CO2', then Id reckon folks might like to be aware of it before laying out money on a CO2 gun from a supplier ..only to find its actually a converted green gas one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redline Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Out of curiosity, will a nozzle that shoots 500 fps on green still shoot at 500 fps on CO2? I think I remember seeing early videos, and the C02 mags were shooting a little hotter than Green gas...ofcourse the new valves will probably address this issue.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theprodigy Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 That half moon hole is on my both Bolt Carriers. Seems that it has been CNC'ed a little bit far... it doesnt effect operation though rite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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