Dimitri MdP Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 dude, I'm a GBB tech myself. I've seen and fixed dozens of WE AKs, as well as GHKS. And none of them had any issue whatsoever with the recoil spring guide. That issue is simply non-existent, and in no way a mandatory replacement. Not even RA-Tech sells their stuff as a reinforcement, but as an adaptable RoF booster (I'm assuming you're talking about the recoil spring guide base, as there is no aftermarket recoil spring guide to begin with)Can it get broken? sure thing. Every single piece has the potential to fail. But it's miles apart from "Recoil spring guide (base) must be replaced " as you claimed, or as the FCG is As for the gas issue, I did myself accused WE of some poor design just two posts before (the right prong of the firing pin and the channel it rides on). So accusing me of not being able to see that is, at least, quite ironic. But the gas release is not bad design at all, it's 100% user error. I prefer a system that can puff some gas if (AND ONLY IF) you have horrendous technique inserting the mag, than GHK AK system that simply FAILS to provide the realistic "dlick" when empty, as for me GBBs are all about realistic operation. 5 minutes of practice fixes your WE "issue", no amount of practice will ever provide a click in a system that is designed to just lock the hammer as GHK's.Really we can have different opinions in some things, but you're just positioning yourself as the owner of the one and only Truth, and accusing of inexperience everyone who disagrees. There's no need to be that disrespectful, and it only works against your arguments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 #grabpopcorn #lovethisfight #stubbornvsstubborn #clashofthetitans Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Why can't we all just. . . get a long. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
machgo Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 On a completely different note-- I have horrible full auto on my sample, and it is coincedent with the installation of the Hephaestus steel trigger kit. I can not say for certain that the kit caused it, but apparently this is a somewhat known issue of incorrect mechanical timing or interaction that can be corrected by filing a certain part. This was mentioned a few pages back... Any illumination--and especially pictures--would be very welcome :D 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 I didn't remember seeing a definite fix for that, hopefully you'll find your answer though! I've got my Wii Tech sear coming in soon, and it didn't appear to be as aggressively curved as the other sets on the market. With ST19AG_WGreymon's parts fitting perfectly with the stock parts, hopefully the sear will be the same.Anyways, I've got the Wii Tech sear auto sear, sear, type C trigger and fire pin locker which should arrive around next week.The Texas Weapon Systems gen 3 handguard is out of stock pretty much everywhere, though it seems it was only released a few months ago. I sent them a message asking when they think they should restock. I did manage to get the gen 3 Dog Leg dust cover though, so we'll see how that fits.Snagged an Ergo grips rubberized AK grip, which should be pretty easy to fit.Last thing I grabbed was an LCT AK 100 series style sight block.Looking forward to building it all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 See the bottom most area? That is what engages the hammer and the little 45°cut is what causes it to slip. All you need to do is grind it down to the red line past that cut. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Really looking forward for some extra WII parts.. it seems so weird to see they have a semi auto sear and many triggers, but no firing pin nor hammer yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Looks like they're preparing for a Holiday, could be they're holding off on further productions until afterwards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) I e-mail'd Wii-Tech about the possibility of a steel trigger box. As of right now they said the only thing in the works is an "enhanced" steel hammer and an aluminum loading nozzle. Edited October 5, 2016 by ST19AG_WGreymon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 The steel hammer is a must, which is great, and I certainly trust them more than RA tech when it comes to nozzles. I'd hope they look into making a valve knocker, as that and the hammer are the really weak points of the system. Also kinda miffed they never replied to my email 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) I'd hope they look into making a valve knocker, as that and the hammer are the really weak points of the system. And a firing pin, which is the weakest part of the system imho. Should be obvious anyway, if they develop a steel hammer it should be paired with a still firing pin, or it will snap at the third shot. Valve locker is quite weak too, but I've seen it keep working without problem even when cracked in 3 separate pieces Not sure why would anyone want an aluminum loading nozzle, the OEM plastic one never fails. Edited October 5, 2016 by Dimitri MdP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I've seen/read of at least two broken nozzles but I'm almost sure it's from the user putting too many bbs in the mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 The firing pin breaks because of an issue in the manufacture of the trigger housing. If you look closely at the firing pin while hammer is down one side goes forward more than the other side. You can make the stock firing pin lasts for quite a while longer if you dremel that down to the same level. I have seen the plastic nozzle fail also, but it is a combinational issue of misfeeds and overloading. The feeder guide are prone to this issue. Most have been working excess of 10k rounds no issues. I have seen the small nozzle/bolt retention screws bend from the excessive recoil it induces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) My gun came with a broken nozzle where the strips the bb from the mag, though I got it and four mags for less than $100 so I can't really complain. I'm not super keen on aluminum nozzles, though I might check it out eventually, depends on how well it looks. Hopefully we can sway them to produce more parts, especially a valve knocker. If not, the "WE" steel parts may fit well with it, I'm not sure yet.Anyways, an update on my build. Wii tech parts haven't arrived, so I haven't done much internally.I ordered an Ergo grip which fit wonderfully. The screw it came with was the same threading as the stock screw, though the grip still wobbles a bit because I don't have any of those support pins in place.TWS haven't produce many of their Gen 3 fore ends, so I'm waiting for them to restock. I did manage to get their Gen 3 dust cover however. The dust cover, even with it's adjustment piece was too short, which unfortunately means that the WE AK bodies are AEG spec, or close to it. Instead of giving up, I took to filing at the rear trunnion, taking off just about 5mm. Gun still functions, though the dust cover has a bit of up and down play on the recoil spring guide bloc. Luckily it came with a custom guide block, as well as a more traditional wire style spring guide. I'm considering getting a front portion, and seeing how well it works compared to the WE style guide. I'm unfortunately stuck with a gap, noticeable on the very front of the receiver, and especially when the selector is put on safe. A friend suggested putting on a real selector, which could possibly close the noticeable gap a bit more. Only other thing is that I've got a bit of cleanup work to do on the receiver where I filed it, though that's a non-issue.Also, does anyone have any recoil spring suggestions? I'd like to grab a stronger spring which is weak enough to allow standard blowback, though I'd also like it to be strong enough to avoid it from hitting the rear of the trunnion.http://imgur.com/a/SNKOy Edited October 5, 2016 by Wooly_Booly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Also, does anyone have any recoil spring suggestions? I'd like to grab a stronger spring which is weak enough to allow standard blowback, though I'd also like it to be strong enough to avoid it from hitting the rear of the trunnion. I don't know why would you want that, but a spring buffer like FG-Airsoft's or Team GBB's might be a good alternative for it. Trying to achieve it with the recoil spring only will require a complex irregular spring, if possible at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) I don't know why would you want that, but a spring buffer like FG-Airsoft's or Team GBB's might be a good alternative for it. Trying to achieve it with the recoil spring only will require a complex irregular spring, if possible at all. I'm planning on trying those eventually, I just want to avoid any unnecessary impactor force being transferred to the rear trunnion considering I thinned it quite a bit. The "wall" portion the recoil spring guide block sits into is around 2mm thick now. Not super bad considering the steel is quite durable (took me quite a few hours to take it down that far), but I want to avoid causing any damage to it. Might be a non-issue, though still something I'd rather not have happen. Edited October 5, 2016 by Wooly_Booly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Wut?!? The one thing you should avoid modifying are structural/load bearing parts. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Wut?!? The one thing you should avoid modifying are structural/load bearing parts. Dead set on getting this dust cover to fit. Considering putting an additional block or something to help take the impact. I'm getting another receiver anyways, so in the event something happens I'll be prepared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 If it's just the length of the dust cover, maybe consider Grim's approach with his GHKs and real steel covers. He purposely shortens the cover just a touch so that it fits forward of the lip on the rear trunnion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wooly_Booly Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) If it's just the length of the dust cover, maybe consider Grim's approach with his GHKs and real steel covers. He purposely shortens the cover just a touch so that it fits forward of the lip on the rear trunnion.Shortening it wouldn't be possible with the design, and even then the receiver is just too long for the dust cover. The cover connects to the hinge with two screws. I removed one of them to lengthen it, and even then it wasn't enough. Lemme upload another picture. Edit: Here we go. http://imgur.com/a/SNKOy Edited October 6, 2016 by Wooly_Booly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I used a real steel AK buffer. http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/199502-we-aks-74un-first-impressions-pic-heavy/page-25&do=findComment&comment=2758749 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Well G74A is in stock again at gunfire.pl. When I have the time I'll be doing a side by side comparison to my WE AKSU. Don't want to be that guy but... could you please give us some input? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Batmause Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 With my friend we ordered a few from them - Well G74A. It came with CO2 magazine, it has steel receiver, dust cover, trigger guard, fire selector, stock and few FCG parts also made from steel. The hammer, firing pin, sear made from steel, the other parts made from zamak (as the stock WE). The nozzle spring is really weak and the gun often comes with damaged nozzle spring. The magazine is using CO2 and it is much better designed as the stock WE - with double o-ring design, the valve-pin sit in an o-ring and the valve-pin centered by a copper part and an o-ring. With this pricetag I think is worth of it. If you buy two than you also saved a lot money and it has half-steel FCG parts. You need to take appart the gun, replace the nozzle spring, hopup rubber and reassembly it - and I also recommend the addictional buffer to reach short-stroke or using buffer spring with full travel stock configuration. That is why I would like to asking which parts are steel on WE AKs74u (externally)? - Sight-block - front sight assembly - recoil spring guide block 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Good info, thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Thank you so much for the info. Looks like the most important parts in the FCG are upgraded then That is why I would like to asking which parts are steel on WE AKs74u (externally)? - Sight-block - front sight assembly - recoil spring guide block None of the above. WE AK74UN external steel parts are the exact same you listed for the Well + the outer barrel and the booster (muzzle device). Is the hop unit WE style? wheel type with VSR-type bucking and inner barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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