Dimitri MdP Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Both FG-Airsoft and Team GBB have some spring buffers to increase RoF, and I've seen many people making DIY versions also. That kind of spring buffer will work better than trying to get 2 sorts of springs above, in the spring guide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 About the rotational force. That would be inherent to the design. Increasing the tolerance between the springguide and the guide tunnel in the bolt and lightening the bolt could lighten the stress. But who'd want to lighten the bolt? And yes, I meant 2nsprings in series, not parallel. Sorry ^^. I thought that way since it wouldn't self destruct that fast as a soft body like rubber. I see it happening here at some railroad applications. Or 1 custom strength twisted recoil spring. I dunno . I'm no engineer ^^ Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Urethane stick-on bumper pad. Mine's been on for, I dunno, 6 maybe 8k rounds now? No sign of wear, not even with the adhesive backing. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) What is that actually for and where can I get one? How is it attached? Edited September 13, 2016 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Looks like a furniture thing. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Polyurethane-Rubber-Self-Adhesive-Bumper-Feet-Stops-Bumpons-/181348899758?hash=item2a393c9bae:g:PAgAAOSwuAVWzHZ2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) ^ Exactly. Just adhered on with the sticky backing it comes with. You take out the (useless) old spring loaded buffer, cut a relief for the screw above it, trim bottom excess so recoil spring assembly can still be easily removed. Presto change-o: you get better rof while retaining full bolt stroke. Edited September 13, 2016 by renegadecow 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Cheap and cheerful, excellent work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Got a hold of the WELL clone. Initial inspection shows it to be a more or less 100% clone of the WE, with some simplifications done to make it easier to manufacture. Magazines are compatible, but I'll have to take it totally apart to check the FCG. Externally, not as nice as the WE. But for the price it's an excellent start, plus they made CO2 magazines. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Magazines are compatible Awesome. Can you check if they provide the same FPS output? Really, really want to see a complete review / comparison of these guns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Awesome. Can you check if they provide the same FPS output? Really, really want to see a complete review / comparison of these guns When I have the time I'll be doing a side by side comparison to my WE AKSU. From first impressions though, the WELL magazine seal is much much harder than the WE one, so I dunno if it'll seal as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) I got my RA-Tech trigger set in. Machining looks a little rough but it was a drop-in fit. It works beautifully. Only thing I have to worry about it the triggerbox breaking. I'm probably going to buy an extra trigger box and reinforce that one with the steel epoxy. What's the point of the RA-Tech recoil kit(piston)? Is it simply just more recoil via a heavier piston? Does it help it cycle? Edited September 14, 2016 by ST19AG_WGreymon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 What's the point of the RA-Tech recoil kit(piston)? Is it simply just more recoil via a heavier piston? Does it help it cycle? It will make your bolt heavier, which mostly will ruin gas efficiency. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I think it's just one of those "steel is bestest" things. Adds weight, realism and possibly "durability" (don't think that part actually interfaces with anything?)... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 The gas piston is there just for aesthetics, and no matter what you try to do, it would never, ever break even if it was made of paper. Which is not.Getting a steel one only adds weight, which turns the bolt heavier, which requires more gas to cycle. Nothing else than that. If you want more recoil (the WE AK is a pretty hard kicker to begin with) just use a stronger gas and limit the volume going to the nozzle with FG discs. It doen't even look better than WE's OEM one. This is what a 74U gas piston should look like:Team GBB's look much closer, still not identical because WE's design is even shorter than the real 74U 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 A testament to what its recoil can do. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 For what it's worth when I had my Ace1Arms Sailent RMR set for the TM Glock, the lens came off from the first 3 shots... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 If I stuck this on an AK's bolt it would probably explode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I have the Team GBB AKSU steel bolt piston. It makes my AKSU a LOT of fun to fire. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 So at 10:00 at tonight I discovered a hair-line crack on the trigger box, in the usual place. :/ It's a good thing I bought steel epoxy the other day, I kind of anticipated this. It's only my third skirmish with this gun and I have another one in the morning. Needless to say I'm making emergency repairs tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Don't do emergency repairs. If you're gonna go in there take your time because if you get an improper bond from not degreasing or surface prepping properly, you'll end up having to do it again. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 So at 10:00 at tonight I discovered a hair-line crack on the trigger box, in the usual place. :/ Sadly, that's what happens when I got my RA-Tech trigger set in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Of note: Wii-Tech has started making steel FCG parts for the WE AK, including some nice trigger variations and also a sling plate adaptor and AKSU rail mount. http://www.wiitech.com.hk/product-list.shtml?path=57_152 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Sadly, that's what happens when I'm pretty sure it was bound to happen regardless. :/ In any case, it's fixed now and I was able to play yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Of note: Wii-Tech has started making steel FCG parts for the WE AK Really diggin the type D trigger. I'm pretty sure it was bound to happen regardless. :/ Nope, that just won't happen in stock internals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Really diggin the type D trigger. Nope, that just won't happen in stock internals. Right...even though there are people out there who have had it crack on stock internals. O_o The area where the crack appears is rather thin in the first place and it might even come down to how it was formed when cast. So just because you got lucky doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I'm not entirely saying that the steel trigger didn't accelerate the issue, it just seems a bit daft to say that if I had stayed using the stock internals it wouldn't have happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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