FireKnife Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Well then he clearly worries way too much. Surely there is something more meaningful in life then Costa has left Magpul? 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Here's the difference: People die, wars spread, Europe is ____ed is not news. Pick up a newspaper dated 9 (or 10) Nov 1911 or 1961 and you'll find the same things. Costa leaving MagPul is news. :-p Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Costa leaving MagPul is news. So is the fact i got laid last week, but i don't think i need to start a thread over it and tell everyone, just a status update that can fade into the background is all this needs, not a 2 page thread on him. Seriously, it is a bloke leaving a company, it happens thousands of times a day. Europe is ____ed is not news. Pick up a newspaper dated 9 (or 10) Nov 1911 or 1961 and you'll find the same things. Kind of hard to do that, the Eurozone and Euro currency have only existed within the last 10 years 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 So is the fact i got laid last week, but i don't think i need to start a thread over it and tell everyone No, you just spam existing threads and tell everyone repeatedly whenever that happens instead Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 No, you just spam existing threads and tell everyone repeatedly whenever that happens instead For once (and knowing me, only once) using it to prove a point about how pointless this thread really is 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 In 1911, it wasn't the Euro, it was the looming clouds of the Great War (which ended 93 years ago Friday). In 1961, it was a Europe divided by an iron curtain, with conflict appearing increasingly likely between NATO and the Soviet Union. So Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 From my perspective Mr Costa has a lot in common with Tupac and Biggie, namely I'd never heard of him until after the fact..... care factor = 0 Link to post Share on other sites
Grindstone Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Who cares? If you don't, why are you in this thread? So is the fact i got laid last week, but i don't think i need to start a thread over it and tell everyone, just a status update that can fade into the background is all this needs, not a 2 page thread on him. Seriously, it is a bloke leaving a company, it happens thousands of times a day. Costa and Magpul have made significant waves in the shooting world, which does affect the airsoft world since airsoft is a direct emulation. Many people have a vested interest in what happens with companies and personalities in the shooting world. If you feel this has no affect on you, fine, you're free to ignore this thread. But now I'm convinced you're just trolling. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 He is trolling. It's what he does. I think it's a pity, Costa and Haley have done a lot with magpul that's benefited RS shooters an awful lot. I like a lot of their products- I don't drink the cool aid but I love the CTR stock, the asap plate and the afg-2. Great designed bits of kit. Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 They helped "design" of many Magpul products. They aren't the designers/engineers. People forget there are trade professionals who design ALL of the products that "Gun Celebrities" claim to have designed. It takes considerable skill and talent to make the words of a shooter turn from idea into actual product. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 And I still don't get the over priced bit. Most RS parts, Magpul stuff is on the lower end if the not the cheapest of the particular parts. CTR stock compare to VLTOR stock or LMT's stock is less, and if you go with the MOE version its even less. Heck in US PTS CTR stock is the same price as the RS ones. RVG is way less than the Tangodown ones....MBUS and whatnot are also less than the Troy or MI equivalent..... Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Well then he clearly worries way too much. Surely there is something more meaningful in life then Costa has left Magpul? 'FireKnife' Said by the man who spends 90% of his time on this forum in a thread moaning about anything and everything Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think Costa leaving magpul is more interesting to your average airsofter than 'what's new in the world of Fireknife's penis' tbh. Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 that would be a small story.... Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Anyway, trolling aside... I hope Haley Strategic and Costa Ludus have solid backup in terms of prototyping and manufacturing facilities. I think Roecar is right, these guys obviously have a talent for designing original, high-performance bits of equipment and they'll need the CAD designers, CNC operators etc to turn their concepts in to real products. I'm sure they won't have quite as much financial grunt as Magpul Industries but I'm sure they're not short of a bob or two. Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 that would be a small story.... Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 tbf it happens so little that he HAS to tell everyone Be interesting to see who the next RS Shooting celebrity will be. The problem with the 'fad' culture in the US RS shooting community is that even when the ideas are top notch, once it stops being new/loses it's figurehead etc, it quickly becomes old news, and something new will take it's place. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Chris, Travis and several others have given input to the development of Magpul products over the years, however I'm not aware of a single Magpul product that originated from them. The AFG for example was conceived by Richard Fitzpatrick, president of Magpul Industries. Now that Chris and Travis are free pursue their own paths and form their own affiliations without concern for company politics, I'm sure we'll see more collaborations between them and other companies in the future. As for why this is in Off Topic, while this information is interesting news to many airsofters, it doesn't have anything to do directly with airsoft products or the sales of such products. Which is what the Airsoft News forum is specifically for. And yes, this topic can do with less trolling. If you find this topic has no bearing to yourself why even bother chiming in at all? I'm pretty sure there are forum rules against trolling especially the blatant behavior we're seeing here. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Anyway, trolling aside... I hope Haley Strategic and Costa Ludus have solid backup in terms of prototyping and manufacturing facilities. I think Roecar is right, these guys obviously have a talent for designing original, high-performance bits of equipment and they'll need the CAD designers, CNC operators etc to turn their concepts in to real products. I'm sure they won't have quite as much financial grunt as Magpul Industries but I'm sure they're not short of a bob or two. I don't think they necessarily have to branch into accessory stuff. They did in Magpul since that's where Magpul started, they(Magpul) started the "Dynamic" business as a side gig. I think Costa and Haley were brought in as Consultants for their primary accessory market first, but their main role after was in the training thing. From what it look like both are these guys are more concentrated on the training stuff first. If they get back into accessory I can see them do it like Vicker and associate themselves with another OEM, instead of making their own stuff... Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 HSP does already have a training schedule up true, though there is also a specific paragraph on the site about products. Whether they'd go through DD/VLTOR/whoever, no idea, though I hope you're right and either one or both does hook up with a company like HSGI or BFG to make more gear and MOLLE pouches, as well as weapons accessories. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Training DVDs will be nice.... Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I don't think they necessarily have to branch into accessory stuff. They did in Magpul since that's where Magpul started, they(Magpul) started the "Dynamic" business as a side gig. I think Costa and Haley were brought in as Consultants for their primary accessory market first, but their main role after was in the training thing. From what it look like both are these guys are more concentrated on the training stuff first. If they get back into accessory I can see them do it like Vicker and associate themselves with another OEM, instead of making their own stuff... Chris was brought on first to start up the training division as an employee, and then Travis' training company was bought with the intention of expanding the training regime. For about 3+ years it was mainly just the two of them teaching and then they started increasing their instructors due to demand. The consulting on Magpul products happened after they were hired to teach. It should also be noted that while they do use Magpul products, in every class I have attended of theirs they are quick to explain that you should give them a try and if it doesn't work for your needs ditch it. Neither Chris nor Travis used AFGs near the end of their tenure at Magpul. They may or may not associate themselves with another OEM, but I do know that it was a huge sticking point for the instructors to be told by higher ups to not use products by manufacturer X because of politics. I can see affiliations in their future, but I'd be surprised to see exclusive affiliations given their past experiences. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry I was being a bit obtuse, wasn't meaning those two guys designed the products themselves, was using 'they' in a magpul-in-general sense. Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sure they might not gave designed the products themselves but an experts input is always crucial for the success of a product. I have no doubt that other brands have already contacted them, they would be dumb not to, so i bet that it's just a matter of time to see products/brands associated with them. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 guys i just found out....so sorry i guess heaven has another angel now Link to post Share on other sites
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