Desert.Express Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Markings are f*****g gorgeous this time..but I'm afraid Umarex is gonna ruin anything. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I doubt Umarex will touch VFC's markings, they've avoided them in the past, we just pay the premium for them, I want to see inside it, see what they've done, please not the MP5 internals shoe-horned into the UMP but I guess with 99% certainty that's what it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Desert.Express Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I doubt Umarex will touch VFC's markings, they've avoided them in the past, we just pay the premium for them, I want to see inside it, see what they've done, please not the MP5 internals shoe-horned into the UMP but I guess with 99% certainty that's what it is. Maybe they'll improve the performances and boost the price to $600,lol. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Maybe they'll improve the performances and boost the price to $600,lol. Only one thing they can improve (increase!) it's the price. Nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 On pre order with WGC http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?item=UMA-GBR-LUMPBK02 Cheap enough to be worth a look even if it turns out to be poo. But mag capacity is only 25!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 A mag that long and they can only manage 25 rounds, bit of a joke. Link to post Share on other sites
Desert.Express Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I never expected such a low price,with a silencer included too.. Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Looks like I know where $270 is going... Link to post Share on other sites
richwuk Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I know where I would put $270 but 25rd mags put me off... Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted February 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Yeah, silencer is included but no rail panels??? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Looks like I know where $270 is going... I know where I would put $270 but 25rd mags put me off... Exellent! Then you can tell me what part breaks first and how a Cyma AEP performs better. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Lets give it a chance eh? 25 rounds is RS accurate. A way to prevent cool down heh. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Yeah, silencer is included but no rail panels??? I am agree with that. Maybe VFC sent just prototype for video reviews and photos? Also, no Front grip... but maybe it's too... personal thing, but rail... i am agree with that on full 100%. For "DX" it's a must. A way to prevent cool down heh. Let's be perfectly clear and accurate from teh begining! We have on this day two videos: WGC and PE (Public Enemy): Single shots - works nice, Burst shots - nice double hits, fast, MAYBE accurate; Full auto - i saw here cool down effect at the end of BOTH videos. MAYBE b'coz in each videos full auto was the last tested mode of fire. Maybe it's room temp, MAYBE bad outer valve in the magazine. It's s question. Markings are NICE. Unlike are MP5, close to KSC (Japan). I didn's saw any 6mm in WGC video. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I've watched that video of the VFC guy with glasses shooting it out of a balcony about 10 times now... and I still can't see any cool down towards the end... the frame rate was a little out of sync, but the rate of fire judging from the sound hasn't gone down much.. if at all.. but really, won't buy it until someone else does and writes about it.. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Lets give it a chance eh? 25 rounds is RS accurate. A way to prevent cool down heh. Nope. Gave the MP5 a chance and it BOMBED. So will this. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Nope. Gave the MP5 a chance and it BOMBED. So will this. mine bombed as well... all mags failed and hardly cycles, I haven't even attempted to fix it after reading so many discouraging stories about people's failing efforts, BUT: what sorcery is this ... Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Nope. Gave the MP5 a chance and it BOMBED. So will this. Well, remember when WE were an absolute joke and then the G36 came out. You never know. They might turn it around. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Well not so much the G36 but the Open Bolt system. Unless they have totally redesigned the entire gas system and stopped using Zinc Alloys then it will bomb. Its all well and good having realistic internals but if they dont work then whats the point? Which is why the WE OB system is such a success. KWA did it VERY well with the Kriss but VFC clone RS internals but make em out of cheese and some how manage to screw it up so badly. Then selling it for a silly amount of money. They remind me of Apple. Link to post Share on other sites
richwuk Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 And I don't believe VFC have a good rep with GBB? Maybe the are trying to buy themselves back into the market. Wait and see I guess! Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Well, if the M&P is anything to go by, it could be interesting. As long as their engineering translates well over to GBBR. Link to post Share on other sites
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blobface Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Okay, his blocked nose actually makes his voice a lot more tolerable than usual.. err... gas spraying everywhere, cool down central I foresee, as the public enemy video shows... but jebus it's gorgeous.. Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Orange Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 He definitely shot off more than 25 rounds in that video Link to post Share on other sites
Paul202 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I have waited a long time for a GBB SMG, hopefully it will be better than there MP5. I'm going to wait a couple months until there are some reliability tests are made. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 We only need RA-Tech test, when they load magazine, then empty it in Full Auto and load again to empty one more time. Link to post Share on other sites
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