FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Are the magazines the same as the M3/SPAS12 shells? I've a heap of those and I don't see the point in having two seperate types of shells. Yep, but now they come in green and white with some sort of Remington X cartridge style TM stamp on them, for all the difference it makes. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 HOPEFULLY the color is all the difference because it would be a brilliant marketing strategy for TM to make them a mm or so longer just enough to be incompatible with the old and since hordes of people will be desperate enough to buy the shotgun in the first place, buying a whole bunch of new shells for it wouldn't be too hard a sell. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 But then you do lose out on the fence sitting market that will say 'but I am not buying new mags for it, I will keep my M3 Super90'. The same as if they made the Nickel Series 70 with a proprietary magazine I would not buy it, even if I want to. That is really the thing that often kills it for me. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 The thing is they do look very very very slightly bigger? .. but lets just see Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Just out of interest, how does one eject the shells from the M870? (I've no experience with the tri-shots, either.) It looks to me like the 'ejection port' is full of parts so I'm guessing they don't come out of there - do you pull them out the loading port or something? Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Yup, just pull them back out the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 After opening the fake lifter first. Pull back on slide lock, fake lifter swivels down allowing you to pull out the loaded shell. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Thanks - after going back and watching the video, yeah, you pull them out of the loading port - which answers my next question, which was going to be "is there a possibility, let alone any point, in loading more than one shell at once?", with a resounding no. That means that the 'magazine tube' is presumably empty, which means that you might conceivably put the gas reservoir in there, which means a MasterKey isn't impossible. That said, this thing looks absolutely bitchin' in stock form! I'll definitely have one of these if I can get some nice aftermarket parts for it (metal barrels, magazine tubes and the like). Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Just out of interest, how does one eject the shells from the M870? (I've no experience with the tri-shots, either.) It looks to me like the 'ejection port' is full of parts so I'm guessing they don't come out of there - do you pull them out the loading port or something? You push the little button that's usually for releasing the pump for the RS Benelli, the flap then opens, at which point the shell either falls off the loading port, or you'd have to pry it a little with your finger, all of mine falls off when the latch opens, but I've used someone's where it doesn't always fall *clearly I type too slowly* Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Thanks - after going back and watching the video, yeah, you pull them out of the loading port - which answers my next question, which was going to be "is there a possibility, let alone any point, in loading more than one shell at once?", with a resounding no. That means that the 'magazine tube' is presumably empty, which means that you might conceivably put the gas reservoir in there, which means a MasterKey isn't impossible. That said, this thing looks absolutely bitchin' in stock form! I'll definitely have one of these if I can get some nice aftermarket parts for it (metal barrels, magazine tubes and the like). The Receiver and Barrel are apparently already metal. Though they didnt specify for the magazine tube that I read. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 On the Spas 12 and the M3 Super 90 you can remove the end cap of the loading tube and pop two shells in there but on the shorty you can't. Saying that I am not sure how hollow the rest of the loading tube is. It looks like it isn't on exploded diagrams. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 The Receiver and Barrel are apparently already metal. Though they didnt specify for the magazine tube that I read. I knew about the receiver, but not the barrel. That said neither of them will be the steel of my deepest, darkest desires (hint - PRIME, LCT et al - get your act together). On the Spas 12 and the M3 Super 90 you can remove the end cap of the loading tube and pop two shells in there but on the shorty you can't. Saying that I am not sure how hollow the rest of the loading tube is. It looks like it isn't on exploded diagrams. If you insert those shells on the SPAS and the M3, I guess it's just for storage, right - it won't actually load the shells? I wonder what they've put in the loading tube if not shells - could you lead me to the exploded diagrams? I thought I'd checked the thread thoroughly but obviously not. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Yes it is storage, though the cap end is prone to popping off so most people I have seen with one don't use it. http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/reviews/benelli_m3s90/m3_techmanual.htm The exploded diagrams are right here on Arnies though I did have to do a Google search to find them. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Gas in the mag tube could work, but it depends how much space there is at the sides of the shell/feed ramp to get a hose past. That shotgun is giving me wood. 'FireKnife' Yeah, that was kinda the joke. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Gas in the mag tube could work, but it depends how much space there is at the sides of the shell/feed ramp to get a hose past. Yeah, that was kinda the joke. Well someone had to . Though if they do go with gas in the tube or grip and it is short enough to get say two or three shells worth out of it that would be fine for me. Wouldn't be firing that many shots a game. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 To those pointing out 'wont the shotgun cartridges be longer' look at about 3.21 exactly or about 3.55-3.57 on the above video, why would they have some of the red ones on the bench if they don't work or are too short for the shotgun? Note they even load a red shell and get it to fire in the six shot mode. It would seem silly for them to do such a thing to be honest. They made the new M9 backwards compatible so I can see them doing it here too. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Newbie question: how many bb's does a single shell hold? Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Newbie question: how many bb's does a single shell hold? 30 in the red ones. I would assume 30 in these too. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Thirty, unless you broke it, or bought a clone one that only holds 10. Link to post Share on other sites
Apex Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 wan want want want want want want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want wan want want want want Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Excellent! And it helps a lot that it's divisable by 3 and 6. Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I wonder if Marui is putting the gas in the grip of the 320 so they can make a 40mm tornado shell down the road...? People have said there's barrels in the unit but thay just seems too dumb to try to market successfully in an already crowded space. Maybe it'll come with a new tube and impact grenades down the road. One can hope Link to post Share on other sites
planeman Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I am excited about the revolvers than the shotgun, even though they are spring instead of gas. I'm wondering if it will be double action as well. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Single action only as per the video. Admittedly, if they had miraculously made it a Gindan double action I'd be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites
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