hwagan Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I did, can't clear the entire mag on my full travel bolt. What I mean is that GHK's are tuned a bit better for full stroke out of a green gas mag. Vipers are purposely made for short stroking, and if you want full stroke, it's semi auto or CO2 mags. Plus GHK mags don't run too well with the 3 round burst edition. Ah fair enough; I've only handled a VT briefly (they're fairly rare in the UK for obvious climate reasons), but the springs are a hell of a lot stiffer than any GBBR I've handled before. I'd say get a softer buffer and hammer spring and add a hammer with a roller bearing, but I guess that defeats the 'Feels like a real gun' appeal of the VT. Do they clear a GHK mag on semi or is it just F/A they struggle with? Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 but I guess that defeats the 'Feels like a real gun' appeal of the VT Seems strange for everything to "feel like a real gun" while by default coming with a short stroke system... Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Seems strange for everything to "feel like a real gun" while by default coming with a short stroke system... It does, but when you're using and firing it you don't notice; Racking the charging handle feels about 90% the same as racking the charging handle on an R/S Deact at the War and Peace show. The bolt moving 20mm or so less makes zero difference to the 'feel' of the gun, by which I mean the spring tensions, clunks and clacks and all that fun stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Dang, this or wait for the marui..... few months ago this wouldve been an easy decision. I have to go with one and run like the wind with stocking up the mags. Buying both doesnt seem to be a plausible option considering you have to spend an extra 200-300$ on mags.....I'll keep my eyes out for the GHK m4 reviews as well Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Dang, this or wait for the marui..... Yeah I know right, considering Marui is also full metal, with better surface finishing (who would have imagined, Cerakote? Marui? What?), and chances are it will perform well in "normal" weather as well as GHK, likely with much better out of the box accuracy at low fps, but the edge the GHK definitely will have is the fact that it's supposedly designed with CO2 in mind, where as Marui won't, so for those who live in countries with near zero winters, it won't be a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yeah I know right, considering Marui is also full metal, with better surface finishing (who would have imagined, Cerakote? Marui? What?), and chances are it will perform well in "normal" weather as well as GHK, likely with much better out of the box accuracy at low fps, but the edge the GHK definitely will have is the fact that it's supposedly designed with CO2 in mind, where as Marui won't, so for those who live in countries with near zero winters, it won't be a problem. I'm guessing that TM have taken note that they are very late to the GBBR party and need to pull out all the stops Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 GHK would be easily my choice: too many rifles on WA platform... MK18 MOD 0, M16A4, 416D, Standard M4A1, PDW, etc... Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Sorry for the vid spam, but these are sort of post release info... kind of, post limited 200 national release in Taiwan. 2 "official" tests Below are unofficial clips by pre-ordered users: Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 These are now available on WGC in 14.5! Now I've gotta chose between this, and the new RA-Tech CNC forged WE M4! Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Also now available from Samoon. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 "Thank you for your interest in SAMOON - GHK GBB Specialist products. Your order has been received and will be processed once payment has been confirmed." Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Samoon is awesome "We also included a m4 enhanced blowback kit, a silicone oil, and a back up valve o ring set for you as gift." Link to post Share on other sites
steinarsen44 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Just ordered this and 6 extra mags, cant *fruitcage* wait. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 What I find nice about GHK is that theyve already released a *suitcase* tonne of spares available on the Samoon website. Literally all the bits are available, fantastic! Shame the 10.5" isn't available though! Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Wgc, listed the 10.5? Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I meant on Samoon.. And as far as I am aware they only have the 14.5 available for sale. The 10.5 is still on preorder as is the 12.5.. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Ah my mistake! Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 so.. tempted.. really curious to see how the internals are.... Full travel, minimal cool down, massive recoil... good gas efficiency... might just swap out my ino internals for these... Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think this may be my GBBR cherry popper i eagerly await the reviews. Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Was about to order an LM4, but this.... Reviews needed! Link to post Share on other sites
M_P Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 so.. tempted.. really curious to see how the internals are.... Full travel, minimal cool down, massive recoil... good gas efficiency... might just swap out my ino internals for these... From what i've seen the receivers (or atleast the lower) are unique to the ghk so the internals likely wont just swap over. Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 From what i've seen the receivers (or atleast the lower) are unique to the ghk so the internals likely wont just swap over. They look mostly WA design in the lower, but the FCG is all steel anyway, so shouldn't need after market parts...hopefully. Not seeing anything amazingly different outside the current offerings... The magazines are where the real hope is Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Well they've been available for a while, gone down pretty well I think. Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Not holding out much hope for them until I see a decent review. Redwolf released a video yesterday, but it's not really an in-depth review. Not even sure I've seen a decent LM4 review yet I wish all the M4 gbb manufacturers would have a standardised mag size/feed lip, so we could inter-change and see 3rd party mags etc. Link to post Share on other sites
steinarsen44 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Not holding out much hope for them until I see a decent review. Redwolf released a video yesterday, but it's not really an in-depth review. Not even sure I've seen a decent LM4 review yet I wish all the M4 gbb manufacturers would have a standardised mag size/feed lip, so we could inter-change and see 3rd party mags etc. Not making any promises but i have ordered this and i will review it to the best of my ability... Atleast Im planning on doing so, just started my studies again so ill see If i have the time Link to post Share on other sites
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