NonEx Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I had a quick look at the shipping and only AirsoftGlobal and JK Army let me do it without too much work and they both state $50-60 USD for normal shipping and $110-130 USD for express. So I would probably go with AsiaAirsoft at $374 USD with free international shipping (standard I believe). I bought my APS CAM870 SAI from them with the same setup and it worked great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Depends on how badly you want it in that setup, because Gunfire.pl sells the full stock version for 327 euro, shipping cost is usually a tenner and VAT is included already. $374 (£292 + £54.4 (VAT) + £13.50 (parcel force handling fee) = £364 €327 (£278 + £10 (shipping)) = £288 Just in case you aren't super passionate about the sliding stock, also some places sell that stock on its own, including KICbbgun who sometimes declare things so it sails past customs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 https://shop.jkarmy.com/we-apache-45rds-magazine-v2-gbb.html Here's the correct curve V2 mags. Evike has an Angel Customs (yeah I know) 225mm GBB barrel for it and you can find the Z Parts trigger group around. Then it's just a new hop up bucking and whatever external bits and bobs that you feel like. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Yeah you can get the full stock A2 version and put on an A3 collapsible. As I did with mine because I liked both Actually I got the A3 and bought the A2 stock. Whatever... KY Airsoft has the A3 stock assembly for sale; https://www.kyairsoft.com/shop/product/we-apache-a3-retractable-stock-assembly-33393?search=a3+stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Disavowed Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just out of interest, I was toying around with the idea of getting one of these, but wondered what parts are compatible with real steel parts. Probably the only positive thing about the vfc is that most stocks etc are a drop in fit with no or very minor modifications needed (for example only the buffer needs a slight reduction in length for the slither stock to fit), and aftermarket surefire forgrips fit perfectly, as does the older style slimline grip if that is your thing. How does the we fare on such things? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) I can only confirm surefire handguard works with no mod with we mp5. Stock however won't fit without shaving materials off the stock. Edited April 24, 2017 by blobface Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I had a WE MP5 and bought a cheapo RIS foregrip for it, which turned out to be made to real steel spec and it would have needed fitting. In the end I sold it to a friend who had a VFC MP5 and got a CYMA RIS foregrip which was a drop in fit.TBH I thought this was a cracking gun, though the recoil spring needed a bit of a boost and I replaced the barrel and hop-up rubber on mine to eke out a bit more range and accuracy. I also put a shim in the nozzle as a flow reducer as the stock power was about 1.7J with greengas and HK temperatures (!) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Someone on my YouTube asked which parts where steel so I just ran mine over with a magnet and took some notes. Can't recall if it's been posted before but here you go: WE MP5 A2/A3 steel parts For parts reference numbers please see these two manuals: http://manual.weairsoft.com/GBB-Rifle/APACHE-A2-GBBR.pdf http://manual.weairsoft.com/GBB-Rifle/WE-Apache-A3-GBBR.pdf Upper receiver - Part A Front sight aperture ring - Part 62 Front sight cap - Part 115 Thread protector - Part 176 Muzzle - Part 177 Charging handle tube - Part 103 Rear sight aperture ring - Part 72 Rear sight aperture ring cap - Part 73 A2 stock rear plate - Part 3 Recoil spring guide rod assembly - Parts 108, 109, 110, 111 Trigger assembly plate - Part 48 Trigger assembly arm - Part 34 Outer barrel nut - Part 82 A3 stock "housing" - Part B Closed front magazine outer shell and base plate - Part N/A 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Disavowed Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I am quite interested in the pdw version as I already have the awful to use vfc a3, but I have found that pdw stocks crumble on the hinge on my aeg versions. Is this monkey metal on the we, or steel? If anyone can confirm this that would be great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 FYI I bought a Team GBB MP5K enhanced recoil spring but was unable to install it on my WE MP5 because the screws holding the recoil spring on the guide rod are like glued in place Tried heating it up, held it in a vice, twisted like the hulk but the screws did not budge at all. Any advice? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 FYI I bought a Team GBB MP5K enhanced recoil spring but was unable to install it on my WE MP5 because the screws holding the recoil spring on the guide rod are like glued in place Tried heating it up, held it in a vice, twisted like the hulk but the screws did not budge at all. Any advice? If anyone is the MP5/APS guru it's you m8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I guess get new screws and drill themout Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Photos of it? I installed it and don't remember having any issues installing the team GBB spring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) If anyone is the MP5/APS guru it's you m8 Well, do'h! It's parts 108, 109, 110 and 111 in the pic below. Like I said I used heat, vice, clamps, lubrication, had one hex key in each of the screws and tried twisting both directions, hit my hex keys with a hammer when it was in the vice and it just will not move at all :| I suppose one way around it is to order those parts as spares from KY and just put the new spring on that Edited August 29, 2017 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 How bizarre, I definitely don't remember it being difficult when I changed mine out.. just a quick twist and it came out, other than more violence, I have no advice to give Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yeh. See this happen from time to time that some batches get glued down while others wiggle loose by themselves. Some people comment on my YouTube videos asking how to remove some screws and I am like "Hmmm, unscrew them?" then it turns out theirs is glued down. Guess someone on the assembly line got whipped for not tightening the screws enough and figured "I'll show them!" Maybe I need to go to the gym? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Has anyone discovered a fix to the over-rotating selector? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin_The+Ferret Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 But then I wouldn't have "extra safe". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Don't over-rotate it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Well, the selector is mushy so I'd like a hard stop. On another note, did anybody's overhop the BBs to heaven? I've got the hop OFF and it sends .28g upwards and .2g just disappear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin_The+Ferret Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Anything lower than a .3 overhops for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 FYI I bought a Team GBB MP5K enhanced recoil spring but was unable to install it on my WE MP5 because the screws holding the recoil spring on the guide rod are like glued in place Tried heating it up, held it in a vice, twisted like the hulk but the screws did not budge at all. Any advice? Well, do'h! It's parts 108, 109, 110 and 111 in the pic below. Like I said I used heat, vice, clamps, lubrication, had one hex key in each of the screws and tried twisting both directions, hit my hex keys with a hammer when it was in the vice and it just will not move at all :| I suppose one way around it is to order those parts as spares from KY and just put the new spring on that So. After about 5 months of waiting for KY to get the parts in stock, I got my recoil spring guide parts today. Unfortunately, because I ordered the complete assembly, it came pre-assembled And this one was tightly screweed in/glued as well, but not as bad as my original one. So I managed to get the screws out and the spring off. Then I went to find my Team GBB MP5K recoil spring that I had in a bag in the closet. Turns out, not surprisingly I guess, that the MP5K recoil spring is significantly shorter than the MP5A2/A3 recoil spring... So all this work for absolutely nothing I had no idea of knowing this without getting the original spring off since it was semi-compressed on the recoil guide rod. fukk... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Well... I give up :| So I figured I could stretch out the spring on my new guide rod I got from KY Airsoft, which I did. Put it back together feeling pretty good. Went and got my WE MP5A4 and took out the original recoil assembly, and ... wtf? Original guide rod and spring at the bottom. New KY guide rod setup and spring on top. Not even the right friggen part. So by now I am slightly upset and figured I would have one more go at the screws on the original guide rod to get them off. And I ended up stripping both screw heads on it I am DONE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 It shouldn't matter when you put it in right? MP5 spring guide length isn't critical as the bolt is guided by the receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Well I did put the shorter one in and tested and it seemed to work just dry racking the bolt but I dunno. Any gain I have with a stronger spring on that is probably negated by the shorter lenght? :| Anyways. It was a desperate attempt at trying to up the ROF with the A3 stock as I have the Angry Gun ROF buffer for the A2 stock. But slighty annoyed to say the least Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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