Jagdraben Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Frak. Frak. FRAK. I'm hoping the fact that Democrats don't agree on ANYTHING helps. And, uh, just say the word, and that Senator thats sponsoring that can disappear... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You flunked English comprehension, didn't you? It's in the House of Representatives. Who proposes bills in the House of Representatives? Hint: It starts with an 'R'. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Of course, you're an expert on the interpretation of toy guns in the United States. Because I'm pretty sure that my parents bought me all of my toy guns until I was old enough to make my own. I'm sure that most other kids got their toy guns from their parents, and that most kids still get their toy guns from their parents. EDIT: Don't forget that the current image of the NRA is as a bunch of finger in the air wealthy skeet shooters and trailer-trash commandoes who love to do nothing more than go full-auto with their illegally modified Uzis. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You don't need to convince me. You need to convince the guy who obviously thinks badly enough of toy guns and the way they're used to make them illegal. And his supporters. Link to post Share on other sites
MagicalNinjaBuddy Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 You flunked English comprehension, didn't you? It's in the House of Representatives. Who proposes bills in the House of Representatives? Hint: It starts with an 'R'. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> More like, I haven't been paying attention to anything up to that point, and just quickly Wikipedia'd that guys name, didn't pay attention, assumed he was a Senator. So screw me. ...Not that way. Link to post Share on other sites
PILMAN Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This is the politician behind the bill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edolphus_Towns I never heard of him but according to wikipedia, he's a democrat. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 More like, I haven't been paying attention to anything up to that point, and just quickly Wikipedia'd that guys name, didn't pay attention, assumed he was a Senator. So screw me. Drop trou and assume position. ...Not that way. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh damn. ® Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This is the politician behind the bill http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Ed_towns.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edolphus_Towns I never heard of him but according to wikipedia, he's a democrat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mr. Towns, you have made lot of people very unhappy. Several Geardos died from terror. Please sir, think of the Geardos. Link to post Share on other sites
Yeager Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 EDIT: Don't forget that the current image of the NRA is as a bunch of finger in the air wealthy skeet shooters and trailer-trash commandoes who love to do nothing more than go full-auto with their illegally modified Uzis. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Never herd that before, everyone I know on the left thinks the NRA is a bunch of rich, fat, middle aged, white guys in trap vests with too many political pins on their hats to count. Or am I thinking of the Vietnam Veteran sterotype? Edit: Ed towns is the same moron that got airsoft banned in NYC a few years back. He keeps a collection of "realistic" toy guns on his desk to show visitors how realistic they are. Link to post Share on other sites
Burninator Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This is disturbing because we had the same bill that they tried to pass in our city area, however it was defeated. Please don't let this happen Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Edit: Ed towns is the same moron that got airsoft banned in NYC a few years back. He keeps a collection of "realistic" toy guns on his desk to show visitors how realistic they are. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Realistic toy guns being realistic?! Who would have thought! Airsoft banned in NYC is fine in my opinion as it could be a major issue. The thing about banning airsoft items is trivial in my mind. Why do you through banning an item that cannot cause any major harm? Granted they look real but they can't do damage. Real guns can do major harm as we all know. But in accordance to the second amendment they can't out right ban firearms so they are directing their attention to airsoft instead. Link to post Share on other sites
r.ocelot Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I wish minimiman was here.... Link to post Share on other sites
Armleg Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Please don't flame me. I'm not really up to speed with american politics. but This seems like an attempt to gain support of a political nature i.e. if the make more people happy than they make unhappy then their happy. Link to post Share on other sites
Burninator Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 What needs to happen is a way to clean up the image of airsoft. The image of children running around the street shooting policeman because it is "cool". Link to post Share on other sites
MadCat360 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 We need a 60-second educational TV spot on Desperate Housewives. Link to post Share on other sites
T.P.Evan Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Well, this isn't the Humor section, and considering the weightiness of the topic I didn't think jokes were called for. At least I hope you were joking. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did you really think that I was serious??? Edit: Ed towns is the same moron that got airsoft banned in NYC a few years back. He keeps a collection of "realistic" toy guns on his desk to show visitors how realistic they are. Then what is he doing with airsoft guns on his desk in a city where they are banned. Scolds Edolphus: "You know sir, just because you made the law doesn't mean you have immunity from it. We must confiscate your dangerous toys now and put you in a white padded room with a straight jacket on so that you don't hurt yourself. You should've known toy guns are dangerous...after all you're the one who said they were..." Link to post Share on other sites
PILMAN Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Did you really think that I was serious??? Then what is he doing with airsoft guns on his desk in a city where they are banned. Scolds Edolphus: "You know sir, just because you made the law doesn't mean you have immunity from it. We must confiscate your dangerous toys now and put you in a white padded room with a straight jacket on so that you don't hurt yourself. You should've known toy guns are dangerous...after all you're the one who said they were..." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At a Town Hall meeting in Brooklyn, Congressman Towns displays several guns that look too realistic. These realistic guns have caused several tragic accidents involving children and police, who mistake the toys for dangerous weapons Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 <img> At a Town Hall meeting in Brooklyn, Congressman Towns displays several guns that look too realistic. These realistic guns have caused several tragic accidents involving children and police, who mistake the toys for dangerous weapons <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If idiot kids aren't pointing their 'realistic toy guns' at cops, how else are we to clean the gene pool. ® Link to post Share on other sites
Yeager Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 What needs to happen is a way to clean up the image of airsoft. The image of children running around the street shooting policeman because it is "cool". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That wont happen as long as we have the cheap ###### floating around and all the apologists that think 300 dollars is big money. Link to post Share on other sites
Burninator Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This is ridiculous, I believe that there are some parenting problems here if the parents are not smart enough to teach their kids that pointing your gun at a policemen is bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This shouldnt go anywhere, the NRA has so much power through lobbying that it barely need raise a finger to squash this in committee This is the typical liberal way to deal with violence. People who want to commit violence will do it through any avenue possible, and most idiots arent going to bring a fake gun to the *albatross* whooping contest behind Circle-K, oh wait this is America, they might. Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Everyone knows it's not the parents' fault; it's the object that's to blame! [/sarcasm] Link to post Share on other sites
T.P.Evan Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This is ridiculous, I believe that there are some parenting problems here if the parents are not smart enough to teach their kids that pointing your gun at a policemen is bad. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bingo. There's plenty of parents who...well...just don't have anything up there. Had some neighbors like that a few years ago. Talk about kids that are going to grow up in juvenile detention... Link to post Share on other sites
thegunrunner Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 The problem I realise here is people in general don't understand "toy guns." Everyone thinks they're just toys until something happens. Parents buy them because they look and feel harmless. Kids run around with them because they think the orange tip and clear body will make cops think it's fake, and the stupider ones think they don't pack enough power to hurt people. So they go out and do some stupid things. However, if they had a gun that was real, I can say 100% that only the crazies would still do the same. I can see where this ban is coming from, and I won't be surprised if it passes. We airsofters understand responsible use of our "toys", but there are just too many who don't, and too many who may never will, until it's too late. I wonder if things would still be the same if every toy gun sold was full metal with no orange tip? I'd think only crazies and criminals would be using them for bad things. Link to post Share on other sites
PILMAN Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This shouldnt go anywhere, the NRA has so much power through lobbying that it barely need raise a finger to squash this in committee <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The NRA protects firearms, not bb guns or toys or airsoft replicas. Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This is ridiculous, I believe that there are some parenting problems here if the parents are not smart enough to teach their kids that pointing your gun at a policemen is bad. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is the key here. Parents just don't get it... They need to be educated on the subject. I can't tell you how many times I've seen ten year old go into Wal*Mart and by a Cybergun springer with their parents... I see kids shooting each other in the streets all the time. You better believe I get really ###### at the idiots. People are simply getting stupider. Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Cookie Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I did some basic internet research on this and found...nothing. The Bill is in committee where, hopefully, it will stay. It has no co-sponsors and was proposed, as we have already covered, by a rep from NY. So not much to worry about but everyone should write to their representatives in DC. The easiest time to kill a bill is when its born, more or less. The Committee of Energy and Commerce is, as one would expect in a Dem controlled House, headed by a Dem and the subcommittee that would deal with our bill is also headed by a Dem. Not surprising and not lucky. So we need to do a little work now so we don't have to do a lot of work later and involve the NRA as a last defense and organize political airsoft groups and such. And launching a campaign to improve the public's perspective of airsoft isn't a very pragmatic approach to this problem. Edit to other posts since I was researching - Ya, I hate people Link to post Share on other sites
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