Dentonboy Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Poor souls. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/three-french-boys-killed-trying-to-make-smoke-bombs-for-airsoft-war-games-from-a-recipe-found-on-the-internet-10321873.html Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 ######. Just horrible. I was going to mock the stupidity of these kids, until I remembered how many times I almost lost an eye or a finger due to my irresponsible handling of Hydrochloric acid bombs (the ones with the tin foil) or fire crackers when I was their age. Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Deeply irresponsible of the people who posted the recipe and instructions. Poor kids. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Indeed. What kind of airsoft forum is hosting that *suitcase*? Utterly unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites
farrasdevell Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 spend 5 mins on youtube you'll find it. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 "Investigators believe that a hot day, with the temperature approaching 30C, made the acetone and hydrochloric acid the boys were using unstable." Wait, what?!? Aren't smoke bombs just sugar and saltpeter plus colorant? Also, way to go logic: “This is a stupid game promoted by irresponsible people,” said the local state prosecutor, Yves Dubuy. edit: Ok, so I did a bit of digging around and found this: VERY DANGEROUS *suitcase* I don't think those kids were making just simple smoke bombs. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 spend 5 mins on youtube you'll find it. Please re read my question. Yes. I know you can find it on YT, 2 second Google search returns you Anarchist's Cookbook, Poor Man's James Bond e.t.c. Whilst we all know it's out there, the airsoft community should have a zero tolerance policy about discussing making homemade explosives/pyro... Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 As hitmanNo2 said, please edit that link out of your post Link to post Share on other sites
Beeingmyself Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Clearly a care of someone needs to be blamed. There are instruction on nearly everything on the internet today. But if your parents haven't taught you right from wrong even the Gods are in vain on your behalf. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Indeed. Just because you can buy Nickelback music on the Internet doesn't mean you should. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 By mixing Hydrocloric acid and acetone, they weren't making smokes. It's part of the process for making rather powerful improvised explosives. This has nothing to do with airsoft (except for the media frenzy and the politicking around it) and a lot to do with some kids with too much time on their hands and no responsible adults around. Very, very sad. Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodsword Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 More like : linked to idiocy. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 If it's true they got the instructions off a French Airsoft forum, it definitely has to do with airsoft...In France at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I wonder if the people who posted the instructions are being hounded by the press? Sure would deserve it. Link to post Share on other sites
sniperelite7 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 So is it linked to airsoft or not? I see a lot of claims, but how much of it is bad info made by dickheads like the state prosecuter? Link to post Share on other sites
GI0VANNI Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Just because mi poor child was innocent and he got chemicals and instructions and the use of a place... he is not to be blamed for searching the net and picking a "bomb tutorial and not searching a little more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid even more when you have youtube vids with the complete "how to" advising about these kind of issues and the fact that these smoke (the smoke you get with such chemicals) is also toxic... No blame on airsoft but on the free of speech in internet and the free of sell for cleaning acids and so please. Either way ban all the 2dangerous content" from internet to be accessible to any kid, let us go DPRK stile!! Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Well if was on a French airsoft board and the admins had half a brain, it would have been wiped clean. So unless someone capped it or it's available in cache somewhere, we might never know. I do agree, it would be nice for them to show some evidence to back up their claims. At this point, it's probably friends of the deceased who might have said where they got it from. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 This one seems to explain it more clearly http://m.thelocal.fr/20150615/airsoft-imbecilic-game-that-killed-three-teens Basically: The kids were in an abandoned cabin cooking dope. The stuff blows up on them, three dead, one critical. They had an airsoft gun with them at the time. With that the prosecutor's blaming airsoft because I dunno, the gun did it. Link to post Share on other sites
Bovinedog Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 That sounds more like it. A bunch of kids who have been watching too much breaking bad perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 If only we could email Yves Dubuy to tell him how irresponsible his comment was and he'd care. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Love how that article isn't biased in any way shape or form. Got to love biased journalism, it just sells like hot cakes. Surprised the daily mail isn't all over this. Trying to resurrect M.A.G. for the better good of trying to scare people ****less. Edit:- whhooooooooppppssss Link to post Share on other sites
Korppi Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Only thing that is tragic is that these kids were so disconnected from reality that this was possible. Blaming it all on airsoft is mandatory ofc. Link to post Share on other sites
Major Dutch Schaeffer Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 That's interesting how the medias commenting that horrible event "forgot" to say that in France the use, sale and possession of airsoft and air guns is strictly FORBIDDEN to people under 18, laws changed 20 years ago when first airsoft guns appeared in the country... Major airsoft forums also ban underaged members, and moderators keep track of the ones lying on their age. And as a long time user of these forums, I can assure you that threads about pyrotechnics of any kind (even professionnaly manufactured) are heavily moderated/locked. I can only add that in France, mainstream medias got a long history of slandering airsoft and players, depicting us as neonazis and paramilitary rednecks... EDIT: typo Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 "Boys will be boys." Could have been drink, pills, or riding a shopping trolley down hill. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 "Boys will be boys." Could have been drink, pills, or riding a shopping trolley down hill. While I know a good few people who have done those things, ì don't know many who have cooked up high explosive... Link to post Share on other sites
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