Dboy's FN SCAR picture review and warning

[Zogmeister]

Well not so much a review as "look at what a pile of ###### I got!!"

 

Just delivered from the nice people at RSOV:

 

The over hyped Dboy scar is not worth the wait... The picture speak a thounsand words.

 

Issues:

 

1) Upper reciever differnt colour to the lower CB and Tan

2) Mag a different colour to the body, so that makes three colours in total

3) the catch was snapped off/broken on the reciever body. Plastic is ###### quality.

4) hop up is totally fuc**d, never seen bbs go 4 different directions from one squeeze of the trigger, but I have fiddled with ho up and seems a little better.

5) its heavy, but very plastic all round. dont know if JLS scar was this bad, but it couldn't be any worse. Someone said this is the CA SCAR Clone. well it must have been the mutant clone.

 

DONT BUY IT, save up and get a CA or a VFC...

[Habakure]

Well thats disappointing to say the least, but also a good enough reason for me to persuade the girlfriend to get me the VFC SCAR. More expensive but works a charm.

[Basho]

Looks very similar to the CA (which has the slight two tone effect of the plastic and metal). CA performance is rock solid though, I ran mine for 10 games on a 10V with not a single problem.

 

 

[Magsz]

Wow, looks terrible.

 

I will say though that the lower is supposed to be a different color than the upper.

[Zogmeister]

Wow, looks terrible.

 

I will say though that the lower is supposed to be a different color than the upper.

 

BY THAT MUCH???

 

I cannot fault the speed of service by RSOV, but my issue is the misrepresentation of the pictures on their web site. Both the AEGs on their site by dboys DO NOT have this great big difference in colouration.

 

I know it is only £106 and to be honest it is growing on me. The hop up has improved alot, but generally I am tempted to respary and of course the broken catch is glued with super glue and will break again.

 

So I am waiting to hear from RSOV as to a resolution.

[Danke]

The VFC is a four colour gun also. A lot of the variation you'll see comes down to how the photo's were taken and adjusted along with your monitor settings. When I look at a picture of mine the changes are more noticable than in person. The only way to be sure is to compare back to back, but paint on a mag vs. anno on an upper vs. 2 types of placstic for the rest will give some blips.

[Zogmeister]

BY THAT MUCH???

 

I cannot fault the speed of service by RSOV, but my issue is the misrepresentation of the pictures on their web site. Both the AEGs on their site by dboys DO NOT have this great big difference in colouration.

 

I know it is only £106 and to be honest it is growing on me. The hop up has improved alot, but generally I am tempted to respary and of course the broken catch is glued with super glue and will break again.

 

So I am waiting to hear from RSOV as to a resolution.

 

Still think the RSOV are one of the fastrest HK retailers and good comms, but we will see what after sales service is like.

 

OK I have looked again on the web site and at wgc at a CA scar and yes there is a difference in the olour of the upper and lower recievers (metal vs plastic). disappointed at how exaggerated the differnece is in the flesh...

 

But I am incredibly disappointed at the damage to the locking catch of the stock. Not the first time I recieved somethimg broken from HK, but just disappointed it happen again. Not as if I can drop down to RSOV to swapp out, if they have any left in stock...

 

[Involved6]

Hate to tell you, but the JLS SCAR was much, much worse. I've seen it, I've held it, and it takes a lot of work to be a piece of ######. I've also heard tell that the JLS was so cheap and out of spec that you couldn't even use aftermarket parts (grips/motors) on it.

 

Also, all hop-ups require breaking-in, not to mention the fact that hop-up and barrel are the worst parts on most ACM guns. Luckily, unless its an M14, Barrel and hop-up are the cheapest and easiest upgrade you can do.

 

I AM sorry to hear about your stock bracket, though. I only hope mine doesn't come the same way.

[justin.kovacs]

I just received mine, and the finish looks great. Comparable to the finish on my VFC SCAR-L Gen III. I havent shot it yet, but I will be posting some pictures and first impressions when I do later this evening.

[Zogmeister]

I just received mine, and the finish looks great. Comparable to the finish on my VFC SCAR-L Gen III. I havent shot it yet, but I will be posting some pictures and first impressions when I do later this evening.

Justin,

 

Did you get the one that came in a plain brown box or the fully trade mark dboys box??

 

Why would you get a dboy if you have a VFC gen3??

 

Be interested in your review. Let me know when you post it.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

[justin.kovacs]

I got one of the first runs in the full color box with full trademarks. Its not the OEM version that RSOV is also selling.

 

I purchased the Dboys after my VFC becuase I plan to keep the DBoys in a low FPS configuration with a CA/Systema V2 gearbox I have lying around. I just Cronoed the stock Dboys and with 10 shots was conistantly between 365-372 fps with .20g airsoft elite ammo.

 

 

[Vercingetorix]

Sorry to be the noob, but what is the difference between this and the OEM? And what does OEM stand for?

[justin.kovacs]

I received one of the first run AEG's that was released as a teaser. The OEM version is what the company is producing to sell to the general public now. I purchased one from RSOV when they were first up, as a special introductory run. Same gun, just the OEM is missing some trademarks and comes in a plain box as opposed to the full color box mine came in.

[Warning]

they should make the pre-release limited run one, there mass produced one imho cause from the pics they look like they have a much lower standard of QC than the limited run ones

 

also to be fair you might have gotten a "bad egg" so saying don't buy it is not really fair to be frank and really if some one wants a clone/cheap SCAR, atm they've only really got two options, the more realistic Dboys or the not so realistic JLS, from my point of view most ppl if they want it to look more real then they'll settle for the Dboys

 

and also your insinuating that there all going to be as bad as the one you received which may be a wrong assumption

[Zogmeister]

they should make the pre-release limited run one, there mass produced one imho cause from the pics they look like they have a much lower standard of QC than the limited run ones

 

also to be fair you might have gotten a "bad egg" so saying don't buy it is not really fair to be frank and really if some one wants a clone/cheap SCAR, atm they've only really got two options, the more realistic Dboys or the not so realistic JLS, from my point of view most ppl if they want it to look more real then they'll settle for the Dboys

 

and also your insinuating that there all going to be as bad as the one you received which may be a wrong assumption

 

As I had said a picture says a thousand words.

 

The stock was damaged and that is an isssue and in my mind the main issue, which tainted my opinion. Having seen Justin's review and comparison of his VFC, I have changed my opinion of the clone.

 

The hop up has settled and is firing lovely now. If RSOV are willing to send a new replacement stock, then I would be satisfied with that.

 

I own klask aks74U, 2XArmy r85 and kart ebrand think they are great value. In fact just ordered AGM HK416, so will continue buying cheapsoft.

[Aod]

i think that it looks (with the exception of the broken stock catch) really rather excellent.

 

if you seriously don't like it i'll buy it from you.

[Zogmeister]

i think that it looks (with the exception of the broken stock catch) really rather excellent.

 

if you seriously don't like it i'll buy it from you.

 

Actually, now the anger has worn off, I am in love with the beast.

 

IF YOU CAN BUY ONE. WORTH EEVRY PENNY

[REVOA4]

Maybe a little TLC will make the crack better, might think about some epoxy then sanding and a little paint. Just a thought. Not sure if rsov will send a replacement stock, kind off the risk we run with buying china guns in my opinion. But yes thats a real bummer. And Dboys aren't exactly known for their great hop ups . Good look with the gun, looks good to me.

[Zogmeister]

Maybe a little TLC will make the crack better, might think about some epoxy then sanding and a little paint. Just a thought. Not sure if rsov will send a replacement stock, kind off the risk we run with buying china guns in my opinion. But yes thats a real bummer. And Dboys aren't exactly known for their great hop ups . Good look with the gun, looks good to me.

 

RSOV have stated they will send a replacement latch plate. How long this will take, will be seen.

 

As for the AEG, witheveryday that passes I grow to like like more and more.

 

In the meantime, I superglued latch into place, so as long as I dont breakdance with it, she should hold for as long as the replacement take.

 

So my last words on the matter are:

 

Hop up settled and shooting straith and good grouping.

FPS is 360 to cough, cough...

And colouration is like for like the same as VFC, but can not say what CA looks like in comparison.

 

My last word is BUY ONE, at £106, what a bargain...

 

As for Aftersale service will update you on RSOV being top dog??

[rsov]

RSOV have stated they will send a replacement latch plate. How long this will take, will be seen.

 

As for the AEG, witheveryday that passes I grow to like like more and more.

 

In the meantime, I superglued latch into place, so as long as I dont breakdance with it, she should hold for as long as the replacement take.

 

So my last words on the matter are:

 

Hop up settled and shooting straith and good grouping.

FPS is 360 to cough, cough...

And colouration is like for like the same as VFC, but can not say what CA looks like in comparison.

 

My last word is BUY ONE, at £106, what a bargain...

 

As for Aftersale service will update you on RSOV being top dog??

 

 

hey bro sorry for the trouble your replacement parts has been shipped yesterday via post office with tracking number RA820949065HK.

It should be at your door step early next week if everything is smooth :-)

Thanks again

keith

[tom lawson]

RSOV have stated they will send a replacement latch plate. How long this will take, will be seen.

 

 

hey bro sorry for the trouble your replacement parts has been shipped yesterday via post office with tracking number RA820949065HK.

It should be at your door step early next week if everything is smooth :-)

Thanks again

keith

 

 

Less than an hour and a half, it would seem! Unlucky about getting a lemon, but hopefully it will turn out OK for you..

 

 

 

 

[Inq Eisenhorn]

Interesting thread, the gun has gone from a POS to a great bargain......to be fair, if its cheap clone, what do you expect in terms of quality and / or reliability? Also, a quick check of what a VFC SCAR actually looks like would have shown that (in looks at least) the upper looks very similar. For the record, I have owned both the CA SCAR and the VFC SCAR, and this beast "looks" to be somewhere in the middle.

 

Stock latch breaking is nothing new on all variants of SCAR, from the STAR version to the Classic Army, including VFC.....and yes, the JLS SCAR was much worse than this....and yes, I owned one of those as well!

 

All in all, its good that you're now happy with your rifle....perhpas now you'll do a proper review

[Zogmeister]

Interesting thread, the gun has gone from a POS to a great bargain......to be fair, if its cheap clone, what do you expect in terms of quality and / or reliability? Also, a quick check of what a VFC SCAR actually looks like would have shown that (in looks at least) the upper looks very similar. For the record, I have owned both the CA SCAR and the VFC SCAR, and this beast "looks" to be somewhere in the middle.

 

Stock latch breaking is nothing new on all variants of SCAR, from the STAR version to the Classic Army, including VFC.....and yes, the JLS SCAR was much worse than this....and yes, I owned one of those as well!

 

All in all, its good that you're now happy with your rifle....perhpas now you'll do a proper review

 

The wise man says - speak in haste, repent in leisure...

 

YES, my initial resposne when faced with a broken aeg was "flame on"... But never did I point the finger of blame on Keith and his team.

 

The AEG itself is very, very good. When I started in Airsofting 8 years ago, I would not have thought twice about spending £800 on custom building a Minimi, which for those of you who know me, I have done and for those of you who recently bought my guns in my big sale will attest too.

 

Cheapsoft has blow the market wide open. As far as I am concerned it is not budget guns for newbies, ACM is value for money and I have now in my armoury:

 

2 x Army R85s - Love them!!!

1 x M14 EBR - Love IT!!

1X Kalash aks74u - magnificent!!!

1 x Dboys SCAR L

 

Total price £500 and worth every penny compared to the heart ache and expense of buying the originals of the above which would cost me £1700!!

 

I actually dont think the quality is that bad, but I am sure the trainspotters amongst us would disagree.

 

As to RSOV as a retailer; very, very impressed with speed of service, amount of comms throught the sales process and after sales has been very impressive. Other HK retailers should take note and Keiths example...

 

Zogmeister Out

[harborne blue]

RSOV are a very good seller and I can't wait for them to get the Well Skorpion in stock - I want to buy it from them because I know it will arrive quickly and not f&&**ed up in the post.

 

However, at the mo I have enough cash for two cheapsofts or one full price gun and... I'm going for full price Japsoft. I love my China guns but the last few I've bought have been as hot as hell and I don't have the time, patience or skills to change springs on every new gun I buy. Especially when, if I screw up it creams the warranty and the seller is on the other side of the world.

 

Keith - pleeeeeease speak to the factories and get them to fit 1J springs as std!

[Zogmeister]

RSOV are a very good seller and I can't wait for them to get the Well Skorpion in stock - I want to buy it from them because I know it will arrive quickly and not f&&**ed up in the post.

 

However, at the mo I have enough cash for two cheapsofts or one full price gun and... I'm going for full price Japsoft. I love my China guns but the last few I've bought have been as hot as hell and I don't have the time, patience or skills to change springs on every new gun I buy. Especially when, if I screw up it creams the warranty and the seller is on the other side of the world.

 

Keith - pleeeeeease speak to the factories and get them to fit 1J springs as std!

 

Dude, not all countries have the same FPS levels as UK, learn the skills matey. Most of us tlinker and some become very, very good at maintaining their airsoft kit.

 

Walk over to the dark-side Luke...