staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 The purpose of this thread is to give you a look at the new G&G UMG. Hopefully there's something here you haven't seen before. I only got it an hour ago (swung by Airsoft Extreme during lunch), so this will be pretty superficial for now. I'm going to write an in-depth analysis later on. However if you have any questions ask away! A few quick notes: 1. According to Sean at AEX (who's opinion I have faith in), the hop rubber is kind of poor. This isn't unexpected, frankly. He says he's had good results using a replacement Systema part. I'll be investigating this in greater detail myself. 3. Sean reported to me that the production units chrono at 320FPS. Nice! I'll be testing this myself later, of course. 4. The only battery available (at the store) that would fit was a 8.4v 600mAh stick battery. However, in the manual a custom "G&G UMG Type" double-column 9.6v 1000mAh pack is pictured. No more info on the battery pack is available at this time AFAIK. I presume it is built with 'AA' or smaller diameter cells, there's no way a double column pack made with 'A' diameter cells will fit. I have a theory, if sub-C diameter cells fit, perhaps a high capacity (3000mAh or greater) 7.2v stick could work. If it had a high enough discharge rate, it could yield a high ROF while having longer life than packs based on smaller cells. I'm going to look into this, and other battery options further. 5. The whole thing feels extremely solid! I'm a very happy camper at the moment... On to the pictures (Due to ten-per-post limit, this will be in multiple parts): The box The Foam The Lowcap say's it's a Hicap? Mag end markings Side rails, screws, loading tool, cleaning rod, manual. They've thoughtfully included an extra screw in case you'd like to remove the handstop/front sling attachment. The manual is very nice too! It has great instrustions on proper use and take down. I'll try and scan it later UMG, stock folded Front, barrel cap on Selector lever and markings Serial number plate and other markings 'Trademarks' Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Mag well area Grip end plate Rear body pin 'Bolt' open, hop up unit visible Field stripping (sorry, my hand obscured the flash a bit) Field stripped. You can see the inside of the upper receiver. Also note the cylinder appears to be a full, non vented cylinder. Odd. We'll see if this is true for sure once I open 'er up. Hop up unit released Hop up unit and inner barrel Major components Some casting imperfections, it'll be easy to clean up. Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Battery compartment door Battery compartment open Battery in place The UMG Rear sight, ghost ring Rear sight, 'V' type Bolt Lever. Yes, you can do the Hk slap! It remains to be seen if it will hold up though. Here's a link to the gallery if you want to checkout the high res pics: http://photos.returners.org/gallery/UMG Thats it for now! Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I wonder what that "M.I.T." stands for? Nice pictures, as always. It's kind of strange that the box art shows one with suppressor, but the actual gun doesn't come with one. Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I love the way they've stylized the G&G to look like the H&K logo How cute Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I wonder what that "M.I.T." stands for? Nice pictures, as always. It's kind of strange that the box art shows one with suppressor, but the actual gun doesn't come with one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks! Good querstion RE the M.I.T. Hmm.. The foam actually has a spot for the suppressor, but the box states that it is not included. It will, however, be available separately. AEX is expecting the supressors and the hicaps later this week. The proto suppressor I got to check out was just a metal tube, no baffleing at all, so it will probably be purely cosmetic. I love the way they've stylized the G&G to look like the H&K logo How cute <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heh, yeah. I'm just glad the markings are subtle. I don't mind them being fake, as long as they aren't as flashy as the ones on the G&G armalite line. Yuck! Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Rider Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Does it feel good quality? Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Great job, lovely photos! And congrats on your new purchase! Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Great job, lovely photos! And congrats on your new purchase! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks! I can't wait to get it home and really put it through it's paces. Does it feel good quality? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So far, overall, yes. Though I expect I'll have more to say once I have a chance to nit-pick. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 M.I.T = Made In Taiwan As for the suppressor it's very strange as at the last BH Show they said it would come with one, maybe they changed thier minds to keep the price down? Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 M.I.T = Made In Taiwan As for the suppressor it's very strange as at the last BH Show they said it would come with one, maybe they changed thier minds to keep the price down? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or to prevent snags shipping internationally perhaps? That's my thinking, anyway. I know US retailers have run into 'snags' in the past when guns come with suppressors, fake or otherwise. Though cost is a good reason too. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 also bear in mind the US is getting a bit sniffy about supressor/silencer parts for airsoft guns- theres a fear, I guess, of them being converted to realsteel and used by johnny badguy for nefarious acts of naughtiness. so possibly this may play a part. or just so they can maximise theor profit margin, which is most likely the case... Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I read somewhere that this gun requires you to cycle the charging handle before shooting and press the bolt release if you swap a part-finished mag. Is any of this correct? Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I read somewhere that this gun requires you to cycle the charging handle before shooting and press the bolt release if you swap a part-finished mag. Is any of this correct? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. You may work the bolt if you like, however. The bolt catch does work, so if you pull the bolt back and engage the catch, the bolt will stay open allowing access to the hop up adjustment. You can then hit the bolt catch button to release the bolt with a 'clack'. You can also lock the bolt open they same way you can on an MP5, and as I mentioned you can even do the Hk slap! None of this is needed to chamber a round though. The 'bolt' doen't interface with the gearbox in any way. I'll try and get some video of this later. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 The 'bolt' doen't interface with the gearbox in any way.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Boo! Right ho. Cheers. That was gonna be my reason for buying this gun. Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Boo! Right ho. Cheers. That was gonna be my reason for buying this gun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, it would have been cool. It's still nicely designed though, I wish the TM and CA G36s had functional bolt catches. Armalites too, as long as I'm wishing for things. Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Is it metal ? (the grey hue makes me think it plastic Link to post Share on other sites
Oracle Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Looks Great! Congratulations! One thing: "UberMachine Gun" ?! Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Is it metal ? (the grey hue makes me think it plastic <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's pretty much plastic, aside from the outer barrel, rails, sights, and a few other parts. As is the real thing, I'll add. It's very solid feeling plastic, similar to the CA36 series' material. I'm not sure if it's polymer/glass fiber composite or what, but it feels really good! I do wish the 'bolt' was metal though, that would have been nice. Looks Great! Congratulations! Thanks! One thing: "UberMachine Gun" ?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Boo! Right ho. Cheers. That was gonna be my reason for buying this gun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe you are thinking about the new KSC AEG? Link to post Share on other sites
strategery Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 G&G UMG so far sounds like a winner. I'll wait until I hear about performance though. G&G is not exactly top notch when it comes to internal reliability. Be interesting to see how the STAR version matches up though. Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Maybe you are thinking about the new KSC AEG? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No there were rumors flying about that said it would do that. I might get that if its good. +1 for braving the curse of crappy G&G internals though. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Niiiiiice. Am getting one now... Link to post Share on other sites
Krazy L Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 mongrats man. make sure you tell us if this gun has the problems as the g&g m14 and aegs have. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I hate you where can i buy one of these Nice gun btw Link to post Share on other sites
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