-=OGGY=- Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) i wonder if you could use a RS spring guide (buffer) because i was planning on buying a RS modstock and the premium kit comes with buffer: http://www.vltor.com/images/ACK-2ST_large.jpg Edited September 29, 2008 by -=OGGY=- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDU_Phil Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 i believe ibico installed RS buffer in his Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GBB Nut Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) GBBNut, I dont remember seeing anything about this previously in the thread and thought an aftermarket bolt stop was a requirement so this is interesting. What mod is needed to the stock one to increase its lifespan? Anything that reduces the amount of extra parts you need to buy and as such reduces the additional cost has got to be a good thing  I'd prefer to let shinhk answer this as he's the one who "discovered" the solution. I firmly believe that credit should go where it's due. Here's his post on GGI: http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.ph...2&t=35#p131     i wonder if you could use a RS spring guide (buffer) because i was planning on buying a RS modstock and the premium kit comes with buffer: http://www.vltor.com/images/ACK-2ST_large.jpg You can use the real buffer and buffer tube with the WA M4. I prefer to remove the internal weights when I install them but that isn't mandatory.     One more thing; I saw that Redwolf stocks these parts for the WA: Are these parts simply exact replacements for the stock parts, or do they improve durability, performance, etc.?  Thanks  -G&P Steel Sear Optional (there are very few complaints about the stock WA part) -Airsoft Surgeon 140% Recoil Set Optional (Personally I don't recommend it. Save your money and buy a real buffer. HINT: It's the EXACT same thing.) -G&P Hammer Lock Optional (there are very few complaints about the stock WA part) -PDI Valve Lock Optional (a couple of us are currently testing a variety of replacement valve locks, including no valve lock... stay tuned) Edited September 30, 2008 by GBB Nut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shinhk Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I'd prefer to let shinhk answer this as he's the one who "discovered" the solution. I firmly believe that credit should go where it's due. Here's his post on GGI: http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.ph...2&t=35#p131 Actually...i was planning on making a thread on just that. "how to improve the life of your STOCK bolt stop". That post is about the bolt stop spring itself. I've taken the stock one out and put in the PGC one, but the stock valve spring cut down and some filing would do the trick as well Still working on one more thing for the bolt stop then i can post it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carnifex71 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) Hi, I have just received 140% buffer spring and buffer from airsoft surgeon, effectively, the spring is very hard, cocking make the M4 like a bolt VSR10.. I think i gonna just keep the buffer and reinstall the original spring. I have too a POM nozzle, I had to said I'm very unhappy with it, a lot of casting flash are present in the interior and interfere with the original WA internals (it finally have broke the extremity of the nozzle, the 3 faces shaped lug a the extremity.) Be wary of this piece if you don't want to play with sandpaper... Â Sorry for my bad english Seb Edited September 30, 2008 by carnifex71 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IBICO Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) i believe ibico installed RS buffer in his  I tried.. It worked. but not to recommend. Probably same as installing 140% airsoft surgeon recoil spring and I can`t see the benefit having this. It would just make more things break.  I do have RS buffer (spring guide) but took out the metal weights inside. Edited September 30, 2008 by IBICO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GBB Nut Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 shinhk - Can't wait to see that write-up. It'll definitely encourage a few more soon-to-be WA M4 owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GBB Nut Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) Prime just released a receiver set with Colt LE/Mil trademarks. Â The current price is over USD 900. Hahaha... we'll see how long that price lasts. Edited September 30, 2008 by GBB Nut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carnifex71 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) I'm wonder why G&P continue to make fun/very special trademarks on their WA M4 Body... I can't believe people wait more Zombi killer body than a good old Colt one. Even the LMT had been released sooner.. Â Seb Edited September 30, 2008 by carnifex71 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I'm wonder why G&P continue to make fun/very special trademarks on their WA M4 Body... I can't believe people wait more Zombi killer body than a good old Colt one. Even the LMT had been released sooner..  Seb   Because funny/very special trademarks don't get you in trouble for copyright laws etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carnifex71 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I Have think to this aspect, but G&P release colt trademark for his AEG line body and they are autorised makers of spare parts for WA.. Â Maybe the want to "test" their body on small series before launching big seize production to aviod problems. Â Seb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 $900... NO WAY! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 $900... NO WAY! Â Â Makes ya wonder for those who can...would it just be cheaper / easier to modify a RS lower/up instead of buying aftermarket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wupjak Posted September 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I almost spit soda at the monitor just now. That's some funny stuff, 900 bucks US for a receiver for a toy gun...no matter how cool the gun might be, it ain't $900-for-an-aftermarket-receiver cool. Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cobra2 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 900 $ in Japan, like the Prime Vltor or Novask reveiver... Hk retailers will sell it about 530 $ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 $530 is still a rip off for a body. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFoxRomel Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) for that price, might as well buy a RS upper *around $200 USD*, and custom machine an 80% AR lower. Don't use a real registered lower if you plan on using it on full auto, as you might run into BATFE/ ATF machine gun issues.  check this out http://www.cncguns.com/projects/ar15lower.html  https://www.vbd.com/noc/shop/  As for buffer springs and bolt catches, anyone try shoehorning real steel ones into the M4? Edited October 1, 2008 by DesertFoxRomel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karlos Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 It can't be $900 that's just rediculous. Are you sure it wasn't $900 HKD? This would make it about $120 USD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 It can't be $900 that's just rediculous. Are you sure it wasn't $900 HKD? This would make it about $120 USD Â No-no-no... It's 92 500 JPY! It's about 875 USD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 No-no-no... It's 92 500 JPY! It's about 875 USD. Â Â Not to mention it has little bearing on the final price when it reaches the HK retailers... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-=OGGY=- Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well im probably the only person reading this thread that doesnt know this, but is ths prime hammer set or prime bolt availible anywhere yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IBICO Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well im probably the only person reading this thread that doesnt know this, but is ths prime hammer set or prime bolt availible anywhere yet?  Probably, but you also got the Ra-tech hammer   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 What happened to all the other damn metal bodies that were supposedly coming out? So far the G&P ones have much to be desired, and the Prime and 2roy... well their just ridiculously priced. Â I think since the G&P ones may not be moving, they are hesitant on releasing more. Shame that they decided to release ones with such crappy trademarks first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Guys  This is a more general question, or speculation if you will. What do you think the up coming sales of the Inokatsu and WE rifles will do to the price of the WA?  Does anyone think that the price will drop, especially as the Inokatsu rifle is pretty much the same thing but with "better" materials? Could the WA version become like the TM AEG, not necessaily cheap, but certainly the "Sportsline" of the GBB rifle world?  If its true, and the Inokatsu group has set up some kind of trade agreement with WA, whereby they (WA) get a cut of the unit sales, then it seems strange that people would even consider purchasing the WA in the near future. If such an agreement now is in place, hence the approaching sales, then I can't imagine WA is taking that much of a cut to offset the loss in sales of their M4 unit.  Could we be seeing a slow demise of the WA M4 unit, as sales drop WA decides to stop producing? or can we expect the prices of the WA to go south very very rapidly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDU_Phil Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) personally, this is just from personal observation from my years in airsoft, WA probably won't lower their prices. 'ive never seen a WA hi capa / infinity get lowered in price due to a threat (ie tm hi capa, and now the meu). Â to me, WA competes on a specialty level. their products while not always, are usually prestige and quality pieces and people pay a premium for that um product. they are like collectors pieces. clearly the wam4 was lacking in quite a few departments but that probably is going to change its pricing strategy. Â starbucks doesn't cut its price for a cup of coffee because there's a new competitor around the corner, because they don't just sell the product, they sell evrything behind it, the brand name whoring, the experience etc. etc. and for that you pay prem price. Â i could be totally wrong, just my pov. Edited October 2, 2008 by SDU_Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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