Hristo Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Friday has come and gone, any news ? Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Friday has come and gone, any news ? Have you hassled the suppliers? Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Friday has come and gone, any news ? Hristo - if you haven't had your tracking number and yours was a May order (second batch), I can only conclude that third batch shipping hasn't started yet Have you hassled the suppliers? Greg. Yes - some people have emailed TSI and responses have been reported in the thread. Questions have also been asked on Facebook. Edit: not sure if anyone has hassled about the Friday thing in particular, though. Link to post Share on other sites
fyurian Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I suspect he'll be told 'Friday'. Everyone else seems to be getting that message. Oh - isn't X459's due today? Yeah - it does seem a bit strange, but in fairness the majority of people I airsoft with don't bother with forums. mail from guy Hi Jonas, Your order will most likely ship towards the end of this coming week. Best regards, Guy Ayal TSI Armories LLC To: sales@tsiarmories.com Sent: Fri, October 3Subject: shipment0, 2009 2:29:29 PM .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}Hello I was wondering how far u are at this point with the shipment of the tavors i ordered the 13th may. so if u could give a possible date of my shipment id mutch appreciate it greetings SO that friday has passed and i got to my utmost surprize no tracking number and if i send him mail about it he does not bother to reply great service Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Have you hassled the suppliers? SO that friday has passed and i got to my utmost surprize no tracking number and if i send him mail about it he does not bother to reply fyurian & co - I think Greg is right. The only way to move this forward is to keep emailing. Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Can't recall if this was mentioned earlier, but weight is pretty much dead-on. That was surprising because the replica seems very, very light to me. However, I weighed it using a digital fish scale. With a 9.6v, 2100mAh battery in the gun, the weight was right at 7lbs, 4oz. According to worldguns, the real deal is 7.194lbs empty (7lbs, 3oz). At the risk of starting a further 'net riot in this thread, my gun showed up with a couple minor issues. Emailed TSI the details and waiting on a response. Mechbox comes out super-easy indeed. Pretty nifty actually. Cocking handle does bind, as bk mentioned. I don't really care about that since I don't use it anyway. Would have been nice if the circuit board was shrink-wrapped for a bit more moisture protection, but the manual specifies to watch out for that. I've cycled the mechbox so it works, but haven't put any rounds through it. The selector switch is very stiff and clicks firmly into place, but doesn't align that well with the markings on the receiver. Hop does adjust easily; build materials seem pretty good overall. Seems a pretty solid gun, albeit very light. I'd love to check out a real one now to compare. Finishes are nice. Can't wait to get the MARS on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I am really not worried about the wait. Good things take time, there are many examples to it. However, what worries me is how someone who consistently misses every single deadline (even in the space of few days) can deliver a reliable product. That's the real worry. Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 ... Would have been nice if the circuit board was shrink-wrapped for a bit more moisture protection, but the manual specifies to watch out for that. ... Hasn't this been addressed to, specifically per IDF request ? Wasn't the fix one of the reasons for a week delay in early October ? Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Are you talking about the board in the foregrip? Mine is wrapped..... Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Forgive me, that is what I got for looking at it late at night. Just pulled the handguard off, and it is indeed shrink-wrapped. Clear shrink-wrap. Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Got any photo's by any chance? particularly in day light with no flash, it seems most pics of it so far are under flash so its hard to tell if its as shiney as it looks. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Best I can do atm. It's nighttime. This is my ACU setup, but it works just fine with the Tavor Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 BK, have you tried measuring the length ? It looks huge, even if you're 6'2". Here's the real one, either the girl is a giant or this one is smaller Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Is it a trick of the light or angle? Surely it can't be as disproportionately big as it looks in BK's pic? It's not just the length - the whole thing looks bigger. The Ares Tavor I've handled looked much smaller (in a good way). Link to post Share on other sites
david pithers Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 holy giant gun batman, that thing is supersized...im gonna look a reet peenarse carrying that around Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 On a sidenote, this is very much a custom gun. While some parts are well-made and done with volume production tooling, other parts/aspects are done in a smaller scale custom way. I have owned and do own a lot of different guns, plus I'm a mechanical engineer. To put it simply, this is no Tokyo Marui out of the box, i.e. TM stuff is consistently well-designed with good detail design practices.....I've found some minor things on this gun that would have been advisable. However, I can understand the limitations, and the overall large parts are nice. At this point, I can say I was expecting a bit more, but I'm sure I'll feel a bit more positive once the mag catch/release thing is worked out. Speaking of, bk, can you get detail pictures into your magwell at both ends, capturing the mag catch and mag release parts? As well as the rear of the magwell? I'd like to compare to mine. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 On a sidenote, this is very much a custom gun. While some parts are well-made and done with volume production tooling, other parts/aspects are done in a smaller scale custom way. I have owned and do own a lot of different guns, plus I'm a mechanical engineer. To put it simply, this is no Tokyo Marui out of the box, i.e. TM stuff is consistently well-designed with good detail design practices.....I've found some minor things on this gun that would have been advisable. However, I can understand the limitations, and the overall large parts are nice. At this point, I can say I was expecting a bit more, but I'm sure I'll feel a bit more positive once the mag catch/release thing is worked out. Speaking of, bk, can you get detail pictures into your magwell at both ends, capturing the mag catch and mag release parts? As well as the rear of the magwell? I'd like to compare to mine. For some reason I can't get pics with my camara, only my phone. Getting really detailed pics may be tricky. Link to post Share on other sites
Neno Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 BK tell us how big is the hole for the batteries .Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 BK tell us how big is the hole for the batteries .Thanks You can fit a 8.4v large pack easily above the mechbox. A 9.6v large pack will likely fit if you arrange the wiring correctly to avoid pushing them into the top of the hop chamber. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 BK, have you tried measuring the length ? It looks huge, even if you're 6'2". Here's the real one, either the girl is a giant or this one is smaller The gun is around 28.25 inches/716-718mm from butt to flashtip (using a rather inexact tape measure method). It's longer then worldguns.ru says the CTAR is, AND what the TSI site says. I don't know why, but I assume they had to extend it a bit to fit in the board in the front, and the V.3 box in the back. Trade off for non-propriatary parts? EDIT: Oh, and it does seem wider too, but I believe USCMCorps addressed that being do to making the battery compartment able to fit most batteries in the 9.6v range.....trade off again. Is it a trick of the light or angle? Surely it can't be as disproportionately big as it looks in BK's pic? It's not just the length - the whole thing looks bigger. The Ares Tavor I've handled looked much smaller (in a good way). The pic was taken in Florescent light at night and I am standing angled slightly toward the camara. As I said before, I does seem bigger than any pic i've seen online, BUT it does get smaller as you handle it. It's still a small gun. Going around corners with it is insane! Very tight! Mag catch issue was the only thing i've found so far, and that was fixed immediately and was easy to do, even for me Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 718mm for CTAR ? Even ARES is shorter, but still longer than what IWI says (640mm). That's more than 10% difference, like someone making an M16 115cm (45 inches) long . Would IDF chose such a gun for training if difference was that much ? Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 718mm for CTAR ? Even ARES is shorter, but still longer than what IWI says (640mm). That's more than 10% difference, like someone making an M16 115cm (45 inches) long well, from butt to the front of the gun's body is 640~mm. Still doesn't jive with the tsi website, but it is still short Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 At this point, I can say I was expecting a bit more, but I'm sure I'll feel a bit more positive once the mag catch/release thing is worked out. AustinWolv - just to confirm, you have the same issue as BK with the hop's feed tube being too long? EDIT: Oh, and it does seem wider too, but I believe USCMCorps addressed that being do to making the battery compartment able to fit most batteries in the 9.6v range.....trade off again. I have reconciled myself with that, but I hadn't heard that was the case until uscmCorps mentioned it. The gun is around 28.25 inches/716-718mm from butt to flashtip (using a rather inexact tape measure method). It's longer then worldguns.ru says the CTAR is, AND what the TSI site says. I don't know why, but I assume they had to extend it a bit to fit in the board in the front, and the V.3 box in the back. Trade off for non-propriatary parts? WTF?! The CTAR is 3" longer than the real steel??? Considering the discourse earlier in the thread about the TSI being a simulacrum of the real steel, due to access to the IWI's schematics, this is a bit hard to take. I'm not sure where to go with this now. If it is that long, I'm expecting an AEG that is well out of spec. Edit: what are the chances the IWI's stated length of 640mm is incorrect, I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I cannot help but feel that side-by-side comparisons with the real steel would be helpful, right about now. Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 i did a quick overlay of the real one and the image posted above, it does appear to be wayyy bigger than the real pic posted but it seems to be some sort of optical illusion. the image isnt perfect but i made sure not to stretch them so they keep the same proportions. the TSI seems to be less slender around the bolt release area, i suspect because of the gearbox. the rest seems to fit with the real design. Save them and flick through them in picture viewer. its a lot closer than it appears in the previous pics. Link to post Share on other sites
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