tbsix Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 With the Spartan one, I only see a single pin adapter, I am currently running a Midland which is two pin. I wonder if they have or plan to do a two pin adapter. Link to post Share on other sites
statikzero Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 The 0.5w part is U.S. legal without license so they are on the right track, now just to get the right freq's. I would even go for a UHF or full GMRS model and get the licensing. Thanks again KWP. EDIT #1: Don't know what the numbers mean but thanks. Now all we need is a comms techie to let us know what's up. -Luis Unfortunately, those 409.xxxx channels are the HK equivelent of the U.S. FRS frequencies. So, for HK, they are freely available to use for short range radio traffic. However, in the U.S. those same channels are reserved by the FCC for government use, thus illegal for the average consumer. EDIT #2: With the Spartan one, I only see a single pin adapter, I am currently running a Midland which is two pin. I wonder if they have or plan to do a two pin adapter. If you are referring to the picture with part of the frogman headset, that "single pin" is attatched to the headset. The Spartan requires you to have your own functional radio and headset purchased seperate. They provide a faux adapter that you "build" around the wiring of your headset and attatch that to the radio. Sooooooooooo, if you have a two pin setup you should be ok, provided the radio fits inside the Spartan shell. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Thanks for the info KWP. Looks like that's a no-go for me, too many government stuff in that range around where I play, AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Bob the Sniper Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3581 Just bought me one. Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Alright, good news: After the initial launch of the HK/China version, there will also be a US version (I guess that would be FRS, right?). Different to the HK/China version it will have a higher transmission power of 1.5W. Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Alright, good news: After the initial launch of the HK/China version, there will also be a US version (I guess that would be FRS, right?). Different to the HK/China version it will have a higher transmission power of 1.5W. Woot woot!!! That P226 is going to have to wait. -Luis Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Alright, good news: After the initial launch of the HK/China version, there will also be a US version (I guess that would be FRS, right?). Different to the HK/China version it will have a higher transmission power of 1.5W. FRS is limited to 0.5w. Kinda a dumb move, though many will like it if they're cool with bending the law. If the antenna is still removable, it'll be out of spec anyway. Usable, but not legal. Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Mmmmm, sounds like someone is gonna be getting some MBITR's soon...yes! Link to post Share on other sites
crackisbad Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 That's fantastic news! Lets not be too hasty to write it off as illegal though; one could hope that if they are going through the trouble of making a "US version" then hopefully they will make it legal in all aspects... Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, legal would be 0.5w and no removable (functional) antenna for FRS use. And power up to 5W with removable (functional) antenna after going through FCC qualifications and requiring a permit for GMRS. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Bob the Sniper Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 So If I have my amateur radio license could I operate it with a removable antenna? Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Removable antennae does not make it illegal. Just a clarification. Its the combination of freq, power, and antennae. But with a license they can used. Which several US teams acquire in order to run better radios here. Its not a huge obstacle to US sales. Most airsoft players in the US are not minors and can pursue things such as these...... Link to post Share on other sites
Mig1 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 A GMRS license applies to your entire immediate family. I called and asked the FCC. So my GMRS license applies to my wife and kids. So... Once my kids are old enough to play airsoft, we'll be set. Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Airsoftradio.com made Radios a topic in one of their shows. Been a long while since their last show, but past shows can be downloaded from their website. A pity they didn't go on air anymore. They were really good. About the TS radio, I try to get more info about the US version. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Bob the Sniper Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 A GMRS license applies to your entire immediate family. I called and asked the FCC. So my GMRS license applies to my wife and kids. So... Once my kids are old enough to play airsoft, we'll be set. Awesome, my dad has his. Link to post Share on other sites
statikzero Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 What if... ...they (TS) offer two versions of the radio. One with remote antenna and one standard mounted, both non-removable. Then, it would be the choice of the customer at the time of purchase to decide which mounting option they wanted. Although, this isn't completely ideal for realism it would be an answer to the fixed antenna problem. Also, a lot of hybrid FRS/GMRS radios operate "up to" and beyond 1.5w depending on the channels and equipment. Using a specific range of FRS channels you could operate at 0.5w and license free. However, the option would be there to operate using another specific range of GMRS channels that require a license. For those with FRS/GMRS radio you know what I mean. If they decide to make this a hybrid radio with "bubble pack" internals, then that problem would be solved, as well. On a flip side, GMRS alone can operate up to 50w (yes, fifty) and is not restricted to an internal antenna, however, licensing is required. For standalone GMRS beyond 5w (five watts), though, the legal ground starts getting really funny and equipment becomes considerably more expensive. One way or another, I will see you guys in the line for TS MBITR radios. Note: Essentially, if they use typical motorola talkabout style internals it shouldn't be that hard to remain U.S. legal. They would then leave it up to U.S. customers to use FRS or GMRS, with or without a license. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Removable antennae does not make it illegal. Just a clarification. Its the combination of freq, power, and antennae. But with a license they can used. Which several US teams acquire in order to run better radios here. Its not a huge obstacle to US sales. Most airsoft players in the US are not minors and can pursue things such as these...... A GMRS license would only apply to FCC type approved equipment, which this isn't. RF gear is subject to a lot of scrutiny for many good reasons. Link to post Share on other sites
Mig1 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 True, to be totally legit the radio would have to be FCC certified. I believe the certification testing requires money, which isn't likely to happen. Link to post Share on other sites
statikzero Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 :vodka:The hard part would be getting it through customs, then, eh? Here's to hoping they succeed. Link to post Share on other sites
scooberoo Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Egay: item 170332635652 Sweet deal ! Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Egay: item 170332635652 Sweet deal ! So that uses both FRS frequencies AND GMRS frequencies but isn't type approved for either. Just to be clear, even with an FCC license for GMRS. Link to post Share on other sites
Mig1 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Yeah, but at only 1.5w the odds of getting busted are pretty low. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 That's your call. I am merely pointing out that it'll never be legal to use it, for those who are bothered about such things. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yuck, preorder. *edit - that said, it looks to use FRS frequencies. If it's good, and can take modular antennas, I'll definitely pick one up after it's released. Link to post Share on other sites
statikzero Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yuck, preorder. *edit - that said, it looks to use FRS frequencies. If it's good, and can take modular antennas, I'll definitely pick one up after it's released. Those do indeed seem to use U.S. FRS channels. Interesting. LINK #1 LINK #2 I think that I will wait for it to be released, as well... ...maybe EDIT: plus a comtac connector would seal the deal, for me. Link to post Share on other sites
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