snorkelman Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 to be honest the whole idea of a big slab-sided pot metal gas reservoir always gives me the willies (never mind one that significantly swells up) so I think I'll see how much of a tweak I can do to GHK mags and settle on those if at all poss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 to be honest the whole idea of a big slab-sided pot metal gas reservoir always gives me the willies (never mind one that significantly swells up) so... Well, for added amusement you could always try stuffing a bunch of them into a kit vest about your person and running around in the sun with them. Â Perhaps plate carriers will finally find some purpose in airsoft? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 make for a good vampire game, no sooner do folks come out of the shadows and hit the direct sunlight when woosh!!! they go up like a roman candle.. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tuulos Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The anti rotation links stop the trigger and hammer pins rotating or sliding. Must say, mine don't really like staying in place properly so I might go for some. Â Just a little clarification, they are most commonly seen together with match and adjustable triggers so the pins can't rotate and affect the trigger pull. And they're a good way to prevent the pins from getting lost, which might be the only usage for the airsoft versions currently. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 to be honest the whole idea of a big slab-sided pot metal gas reservoir always gives me the willies (never mind one that significantly swells up) so I think I'll see how much of a tweak I can do to GHK mags and settle on those if at all poss  So your having problems with the AGM mags or GHK? Kind of got confused by your post. My GHK mags work flawlessly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 So your having problems with the AGM mags or GHK? Kind of got confused by your post. My GHK mags work flawlessly. Â He's saying that his AGM mags get fatter and expand when he uses green gas with them. That sounds super bad since the AGM magwell has tabs that make it more narrow..... Again that's bad.... Â -Luis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 So your having problems with the AGM mags or GHK? Kind of got confused by your post. My GHK mags work flawlessly.  nopes guns not here yet, I just dont like idea of cast metal mags of this sort of size - its not a design I'd have confidence in for a pressure bearing container.  Based on their AK mags I'm not going to get my hopes up on the GHKs working flawlessly (if they do thats a bonus), but even if they have issues I'd be more willing to tweak them than stick gas into any of the cast ones  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST19AG_WGreymon Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I hope they fix the gas leak issue. Is it true that the RAS version is fixed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badly Browned Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Like I said, my AGM has yet to leak with Propane, and I bought the non-ras 061 version. Â I ordered a GHK from Evike but it seems they are backordered :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Like I said, my AGM has yet to leak with Propane, and I bought the non-ras 061 version. Â I ordered a GHK from Evike but it seems they are backordered :/ Â I bought the last three during their last sale in store Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have more confidence in the cast WA/AGM mag than my WE mags which are wafer thin and cast, secured by 4 screws and a whole lot of superglue + tape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badly Browned Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) I bought the last three during their last sale in store  *bramston pickle*!  Well, looks like I spoke to soon. Just a few minutes ago think my O-rings blew out. I am terrible with part names, but now when I fill it up gas will leak from the nozzle (?) fairly rapidly. Well, hopefully Evike restocks on my GHK mags soon lol. Edited June 23, 2009 by Badly Browned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I also do NOT have any issues with the second gen mag from AGM that came with the RIS version. Neither leaking nor swelling problems. The mag sits indeed very tight inside the mag well and seems not to fall out by itself when released, but that actuallly only adds to the overall sturdy and rigid feeling of the AGM. But given the inconsistent assembly quality of the AGMs, it's no surprise there could be some bad apples. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morb Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have the RIS version and I am having problems with my mag.. Seems to be a general problem of the AGM mags... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morb Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Maybe there's something really wrong but it's likely that the mag valve just needs to pop back out to seal again. press down the tab on the top of the mag and then use a screwdriver to poke at the valve. Does it spring in and out? It should. Â Mine does this sometimes too. I just make sure I'm holding the tab down then just give the mag a couple of quick blasts of gas and it'll quickly reseat itself and allow me to fill it properly. Â I believe the valve does spring in and out... can't test it now as I'm at work. What does holding down that tab actually do? When i look at it it doesn't seem to do any function with the valve.. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirsoftHawaii90 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I <3 RSOV, anyone else? Â http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&...product_id=3666 Â $17 and hopefully they are the "New" version mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haba Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) kinda strange, I received a 3pack of mags from ebb and my ris version some days later. the mags from the 3pack leak much less than the mag from the rifle. all seem to swell up, but are still insertable with some force at propane. still wondering how it will look like at hot temperatures though Edited June 23, 2009 by Haba Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Check if the O-rings on the valves are in their grooves. Also, check if the large o-ring around the top of the mag is free from scratches and stuff. A good o-ring kit for the mags would be nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=25790 Â And a set of regular o-rings will take you a long way on getting your mags to work the best ;D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morb Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) yea.. but those are the o-rings for the mags themselves.. I think the problem is at the valve. When filling the mag, the gas just runs through... Â Not sure though... oh well, going to be fun to find the correct o-rings .. Edited June 23, 2009 by morb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 What does holding down that tab actually do? When i look at it it doesn't seem to do any function with the valve.. At the risk of telling you how to suck eggs, a normal GBB works in a simple way. The hammer hits the firing pin and then bounces back slightly which causes the firing pin to be pushed into into the gas valve momentarily and this releases a short blast of gas which cycles the slide or bolt carrier. Â The WA Magna system is a bit smarter than this. The first part works the same, the hammer strikes the firing pin and then bounces back which pushes the firing pin forward so it can depress the gas valve. This is where things are slightly different. The gas valve is HELD open by that lever built into the mag. The slide (or in the case of the M4, the bolt carrier) moves back about 1". The shape of the slide (or bolt carrier) is designed to depress that tab after roughly 1" so that the lever unlocks the gas valve again, which shuts off the flow of gas. Basically, this means you get a measured amount of gas with each shot. Â Anyway, when the mag is emptied the slide can't complete the cycle so the lever keeps holding the gas valve open. WA's are famous for this. EVERYBODY fills their first WA mag while the valve's open and sees the gas spray out the top. When you press the tab on the top of the mag you're manually resetting this lever shich should release the valve so it seals and you can fill it. Â As I said, even though I do this I find that the mag on my AGM gun doesn't seal at first. I can only assume that a seal somewhere is only just on the edge of the seating surface and, when the mag is empty, the spring in the valve isn't strong enough to seat it properly. I've found that a couple of strong, quick, blasts of gas will force the mag to seal and allow me to refill it. Â Of course, it's possible that you have a split or damaged seal in your mag and it'll never work again until it's replaced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
militaryman7523 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I <3 RSOV, anyone else? http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&...product_id=3666  $17 and hopefully they are the "New" version mags.   Is rsov.com a good retailer? I have never ordered from them, and i live in the USA. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badly Browned Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Just checked rsov, and I get $72 shipping for 3 magazines...... Â In other news, I can say that AGM magazine o-rings look fine, so it looks like it is my valve that is leaking gas, but I don't have a proper tool to remove it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Just checked rsov, and I get $72 shipping for 3 magazines...... In other news, I can say that AGM magazine o-rings look fine, so it looks like it is my valve that is leaking gas, but I don't have a proper tool to remove it I can get you 3 mags including shipping for US$113. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badly Browned Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Well, if you still have that offer come next paycheck, I may go for it Edited June 23, 2009 by Badly Browned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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