chris u'5 Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) Yep, I think you're correct actually We'll if anyone is looking for actual Magpuls you now know where to go Edited May 30, 2009 by chris u'5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SirSavage Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Airsoft buddy now has the new Co2 magazines in stock. http://www.airsoftbuddy.com/index_eproduct...products_id=362 $10 more than the green gas mags doesn't seem like the greatest deal considering these hold the same amount of bbs. Unless the blow back is noticeably stronger I don't really see the need for these. But thats just me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Does anyone know when the WE SCAR GBB is being released? My paypal balance is beginning to spam me begging to be put towards a new WE GBB rifle Cheers Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yep, I think you're correct actually We'll if anyone is looking for actual Magpuls you now know where to go Must be this hot weather and the beers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'm curious about what effect water has on the WE. for example, if it were submerged in water and then fired- could it clear itself after a few shots? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Provided you give it the same amount of shake time as with the real HK416 tests on Youtube, I don't see why it shouldn't. The blow back chamber is almost completely sealed and your only worry would be water left inside the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CommieHunter Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) I still haven't seen a photo of exactly where one of the mags has failed. I think the main issue is that there aren't any instructions included on how these mags should be treated. WE doesn't tell in the manual to store magazines empty. You can't blame negligence on the user if you fail to properly instruct the user on proper handling. That being said, I love my WE M4 and I run around with mags on my person and leave mags under my bed and I don't worry about it. Edited May 31, 2009 by CommieHunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hondatech Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 And which M249s are they using there? Yeah, that. Real, Electric Airsoft, or does this have something to do with the hush-hush stuff coming soon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
julietcharlie Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I have a pix showing the difference between the reinforced mag and the old one - like the one that exploded here in MNL w/c is similar to the one posted above. I'll post the photos tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 AFAIK, you shouldn't keep ANY gas gun left charged for any extended period of time. S'kinda common knowledge... Ben. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/c...s/frontview.jpg http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/c...ss/sideview.jpg Wow, that's a bit different and worse than I was expecting. How old were these mags when they exploded? Maybe there's some sort of metallurgical issue and the metal becomes weakened from everyday use. AFAIK, you shouldn't keep ANY gas gun left charged for any extended period of time. S'kinda common knowledge... Ben. On the other hand, I've always heard that some gas should be left in the magazine when storing it to keep the seals healthy. It's always been my experience that mags that go into storage ungassed tend to develop leaks, where as mags that always have a bit of gas in them almost never develop a leak unless they suffer a hard fall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Provided you give it the same amount of shake time as with the real HK416 tests on Youtube, I don't see why it shouldn't. The blow back chamber is almost completely sealed and your only worry would be water left inside the barrel. Wouldn't water in the barrel flow into the blowback chamber? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Airsoft buddy now has the new Co2 magazines in stock. http://www.airsoftbuddy.com/index_eproduct...products_id=362 $10 more than the green gas mags doesn't seem like the greatest deal considering these hold the same amount of bbs. Unless the blow back is noticeably stronger I don't really see the need for these. But thats just me. Maybe because you're in a warm part of the USA? In the UK Propane GBB weapons are pretty much useless outside of summer. CO2 works well in cold weather due to its lower boiling point- i.e. what is cold in winter is pretty warm for CO2. CO2 Mags being released is good news. I'm placing an order for a few of these ASAP. When's the WE Scar being released? Edited May 31, 2009 by bbstriker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Wouldn't water in the barrel flow into the blowback chamber? Not if it were chambered. And if it weren't it would only go as far as the nozzle since #122 would be blocking the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Chef Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Well, I seem to have fixed my bolt stop issue. Having done the mod on the mags as described on the WIKI I was still experiencing problems. So I did a bit of looking and it appeared as though due to some friction in the bolt stop and the spring underneath it, this was stopping the power of the spring in the magazine from pushing up the bolt stop. so I put a tiny shim in the bolt stop to take out some of the play, and I clipped the spring down ever so slightly (and I mean slightly), so it had just enough to push it out of the way when not under tension from the the mag spring. Hey presto. now working fine with all magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevisITALY Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I boys! my new we m4 (honk kong version) doesn't works well cause in ten shots that it throw about six fall at few meters of distance. Someone knows whats the problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 AFAIK, you shouldn't keep ANY gas gun left charged for any extended period of time. S'kinda common knowledge... Ben. Untrue. Anyone is the O-ring industry would tell you otherwise. O-rings seal better when gas is kept inside it. Once you keep the system unpressurised the O-ring loses the original shape that it takes the space and hence it will leak. If the O-ring decides to dry up and die, its because a) The wrong gas is being used with the O-ring (O-rings can be made out of various materials) wrong additives are added to the gas mixture. This is why the mags you see from factory always leak until a) you fill it up and you add silicone oil (which expands the O-rings a slightly). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnermaniac Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Hi guys, I've been wondering and can't seem to find an answer. How would you reduce FPS when using a CO2 conversion kit with 12gr capsules to around 340 fps. Also are there any known internal superiorities of the new WE M16 and CQBR over the M4 AFC as seen below (2nd down) http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/acatalog/Gas_Rifles.html They are all the same version, aren't they? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Edited May 31, 2009 by gunnermaniac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Not if it were chambered. And if it weren't it would only go as far as the nozzle since #122 would be blocking the way. OK. That's god to know. On some milsim weekends I attend there is the occasional river crossing. With an electric rifle being accidentally submerged, you can pretty much rule out that weapon for the duration. It seems that with a GBB Rifle, a quick field strip and simply draining it followed by firing it a few times (after re-assembling!) should clear it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lock-on Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Hello, someone knows if the G&P RAS II fit well on the WE M4 ? Thanks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Chef Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 How would you reduce FPS when using a CO2 conversion kit with 12gr capsules to around 340 fps. I suppose you could just do the same as everyone with the standard nozzle, and stick something behind the floating valve say like a gearbox bearing or something. There is rumour that the CO2 nozzle can be supplied in a downgraded form as well! But I've not seen one advertised anywhere. I made my nozzle fully adjustable... pretty easy conversion. Also are there any known internal superiorities of the new WE M16 and CQBR over the M4 AFC Er..... as long as they have the new hop unit, I don't think there is any difference. There might be some trades and receiver finish differences but to be honest I can't remember what those differences were and if they are still applicable (this was back in the early days). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnermaniac Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Cheers Chef, very grateful for your help. Is there any chance you could go into a bit more detail about your nozzle adjustment conversion? Enquiring about downgraded CO2 nozzle with airsoft buddy now. Thanks once again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whudafxup Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Not sure if this is legit or not but.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkw4Mjj62KU At 2:11 he says it is a WE Gbb M4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Double tap. Ben. Edited May 31, 2009 by L4byr1nth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Triple tap! Ben. Edited May 31, 2009 by L4byr1nth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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