Skarclaw Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I have an emergency bag packed with holiday equipment, summery clothes, passport and foreign money so in the case of a terrorist attack I can get plane trips to exotic destinations at next to nothing prices. Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 An event like hurricane Katrina very well could require a handgun. Natural disasters overload LE personnel, and as phone service generally gets spotty as well you may need to take care of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Bug out bag is all well and good if you have some place to go, which is a can of worms by its self, where would go? How would you get there, how do you know its still a good place to go, etc etc. I live on a farm in a quiet rural area, I have loads of rice (cause curry is great) and beans, aswell as some guns and an armoured car (eccentric grandfather) so bring the zombies. edit 2 self succiency would be much more important then an extensive armoury, which judging from previous survival threads here is what most people tend to go for. Basic stuff like making sure you house can keep heat in and generally making sure stuff is efficeint would be more useful then having some m4 with millions of dollars worth of accessories. If you were worried about self defence I think a shotgun would be more then adequate and some sort of .22 for hunting, maybe a bigger bore if you want to go for deer etc. More importantly then that, making sure your house is well insulated and the money you can save by growing your own *suitcase* is useful for day to day stuff, whereas enough guns to equip a 3rd world nation isn't. tldr; you can't eat an m4 Link to post Share on other sites
bbondaloose Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 And you forgot the Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 That is rolled up in a condom and stored in my anal cavities, "just in case" Link to post Share on other sites
bbondaloose Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Woah... That's a genius idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 That is rolled up in a condom and stored in my anal cavities, "just in case" The Book or the Author? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 The author. I've tried coaxing him out with m&ms but he isn't moving. Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 tldr; you can't eat an m4 kill animals with m4 loot a home/store with m4 use m4 muzzle flash to cook food Link to post Share on other sites
Treadhead Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 use m4 muzzle flash to cook food saywhatnow???? Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 An event like hurricane Katrina very well could require a handgun. Natural disasters overload LE personnel, and as phone service generally gets spotty as well you may need to take care of yourself. True. These LE were certainly overloaded...with stolen goods: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7554865090799900529 Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Busy Bee's If i wasnt so sure that guy was an idiot i would say he had some balls going in that "friendly" neighborhood Walmart. I would start a whole justification on looting in that taking extra diapers is different than that 50 inch plasma screen but im sure they all were going for the diapers But for hurricanes my need for a stuff bag is that you typically need to get back in once its passed to secure property and save stuff if you can before deciding to stay or just securing it then leaving again. The need for a handgun is definite in such situations given the proliferation of lawlessness in all areas. If its less than cat 3 then staying through the storm for a few days without electricity is the next obstacle so its just nice to have the stuff you need in one place instead of scrounging for batteries, flashlights, extra cell phone batteries etc. My kit mostly just gets used for camping purposes and stays in a indefinite testing cycle in that regard. I also have another bag in my car that gets used when i end up staying at friends houses and need a change of clothes or if i were to breakdown at night, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Actually screw it. I can justify finding a handgun so that one can try and force a FEMA crew at gun point to actually do something worthwhile like...help somebody. Something that the morons didnt do a whole lot of after Katrina. Link to post Share on other sites
babybackribs Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 The author. I've tried coaxing him out with m&ms but he isn't moving. Have you tried Ex-lax? Or that colon cleansing stuff? Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 You'd have to be pretty stupid to loot in your uniform and continue to do it when there was a TV crew there. I don't need a hurricane survival kit, my house is made of bricks. Flood kit, I live on a hill. Blizzard, I can drive in the snow plus I have snow socks for the car, a box of grit and a shovel. The simpletons who live around here are crippled by an inch of snow, it's pathetic. I got to work last winter to discover that the management hadn't bothered and was told to go home. I was a postman FFS. I can walk to anywhere I need to get to and have access to heavy plant equipment. I'm golden. Not a bad idea though. You carry out a risk assessment and take risk control measures, you believe that your risk of being in a "bug out" situation is strong enough to take precautions. Fair play. When I was a student I had a set of Rohan cargo pants, a t-shirt, underpants, socks, a wash kit, asprin and condoms in the bottom of my bag. You never know when you are going to end up somewhere other than your own bed... Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 On the subject of blizzards...funny this...I can drive a bus happily in the snow and only get held up by nerf-herders in cars. It seems NOONE knows how to drive these days! As for getting about...if you can stand the weather, forget a car. Bikes are the way to go. My Guzzi Cali can carry 148 litres of luggage before I start wearing backpacks. So when you're jammed on the motorways, Ill be off and about. Enjoy the fallout/flood/plague! Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I can drive in the snow plus I have snow socks for the car, a box of grit and a shovel. The simpletons who live around here are crippled by an inch of snow, it's pathetic. To be fair - speaking as somebody who's driven through jungles, deserts, swamps, 3ft deep mud and 8ft deep snow-drifts - it snowed very lightly in Aberdeen a couple of years ago and I found I simply couldn't get my MR2 up a motorway slip-road! Fortunately, I deliberately head into work at around 6:30am so the roads were almost deserted. First time I wasn't even really thinking and just drove up the slip-road as usual and ground to a halt half way up. I reversed down again, went around the ring-road to build up momentum again and then tried trundling up in 3rd gear. No dice. Third time I tried gunning it up there in first but it just looked more spectacular with the same result. By this time the traffic was starting to get a bit heavier and I was forced to give up and trundle along a bunch of (flat) country lanes to get into work. Until you've actually been in a car that's physically incapable of dealing with dodgy weather you really won't understand just how helpless a driver can be. Incidentally, the missus used to drive my Porsche so I bought her the MR2 Turbo as a birthday present which she loved.... until winter arrived. At that point she started using my BMW and left me to drive the MR2 700 miles a week in bad weather. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Admittedly the Omegatanker struggles as soon as it starts raining... Link to post Share on other sites
Scuffer Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 If I lived in the US then I'd already have one of these set up and ready to go, for the following reasons - far more severe weather and increased likelyhood of natural disasters, widespread gun ownership, vast countryside etc etc - it would be basic but able to sustain me for 2-3 days, after watching the chaos after hurricane Katrina it would also contain ammunition. Living in the UK though we have a much smaller country, far less natural hazards, limited gun ownership (except our inner city youth). That said having some sort of go-bag may be useful and my justification for having them are incidents/events/possiblities such as the following: - the fuel crisis, remember not being able to fill your car up for a few days and the tailbacks and hording that resulted, - the up coming flu pandemic, it may only have mild effects on those infected but what happens if my local hospital is not able to cope and I have to travel further a field at short notice due to either flu complications within friends/family or other medical needs, - remember the snow that some areas had last winter, now I know that people use half an inch as an excuse not to go to work, but also remember that some people had to spend a night snowed into their cars on parts of our motor way, - electrical blackout, knowing that I'l have a torch that works and food that may not need cooking etc, - terrorist attack that directly effects my local amenities or services, dispite the recent downgrade in status we are still on 'substantial', - short notice roadtrip/holiday/skirmish/weekender/family or friend emergency/hiking trip, - large scale public order situation, terrorist attack that does not directly effect me but means I get called on duty at short notice with the possibly of being kept on long duties, - any other weather/natural disaster such as flooding, bad storms, high winds etc, - zombies...... obviously. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Why is it that people on guns/military/airsoft forums are the only one "aware" of possible upcoming disasters? Yeah, when the flu really hits us we wont be laughing anymore, because you were prepared. Anyway, this is fun, so Ill buy into it. Condoms are actually very necessary: lets say W.W.III starts and you have to live for 2 years on your own, you dont wanna get your girl pregnant, she wont be able to run at a certain stage of the pregnancy, youll have one more mouth to feed, and given that most people dont know how to help give birth, death during birth or later infection is a high risk. Link to post Share on other sites
AceOfSkulls Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 thats not what the condoms are for, there for keeping stuff dry/clean and water storage. I rather have water and stuff i need then penetrative sex, after all theres more than one way to choke a chicken despite what people think the world is getting more unstable and Britian is not exempt. We could weather any global incident bettter than most, but while im surviving reasonably comfortably and the naysayers are freezing starving and lost. Ill be happy that the little money / effort it takes to set one of these up pays off. it is better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it! Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Don't forget, you can store a lot of water in a condom but it will break eventually, if you want to carry the stuff for a while, you will need to put the water filled condom in a sock or something. I have driven some cars that just won't go in the snow (you know your cars stealth, a 300hp front wheel drive Nova on R888s) but chains/socks and a box of grit for the bad bits has never let me down. Admittedly I wouldn't want to get out and start shovelling grit on a m'way slip road. A couple of years ago I took my old Range Rover up to the top of Bluebell hill (steep road that connects the M2 and M20 at Maidstone) and charged people £10 a time to pull them out. This winter is going to be interesting, by then I will have lowered my car a couple of inches on top of the coilovers, stiffened anti-roll bars and such, I'm not sure if the lower ground clearance will cause any issues, I suppose I can just crank the springs back up so it looks like I'm on stilts... The Quaife ATB diff should help things a bit and I have a couple of spare alloys I can stick winter tyres on, I'm not sure how T1-Rs will perform in apocalyptic weather. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 And dont forget, WD40 rots rubber So dont use it as a sex lube, kids! but it smells nice am i the only one here who loves the smell of WD40? it's like nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites
Zatarra Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I rather have water and stuff i need then penetrative sex, after all theres more than one way to choke a chicken Ghay In all seriousness, the SAS survival guide should be a packed in every "bug-out" bag. Quite possibly one of the better publications i've read. Link to post Share on other sites
sgt.kicker Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 as long as you guys finish up this stuff before 12-12-12, you're set. Link to post Share on other sites
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