Freight Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Frogfish, it only comes with the one mag like standard, this is my first 1911 style TM so i ordered a shed load of mags and some came in the box , which you see in the pic Cheers Ian Link to post Share on other sites
Crusader452 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 <br />Frogfish, it only comes with the one mag like standard, this is my first 1911 style TM so i ordered a shed load of mags and some came in the box , which you see in the pic<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Ian<br /><br /><br /><br /> Is it possible to take the rail off? Link to post Share on other sites
cokatommy Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Yes rail can be taken off , but then you have 4 holes in the frame... Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Here it is without the rail: Link to post Share on other sites
mr eagle Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 It doesn't look too bad without the rail IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 This thing looks hot! I'll wait to see if someone makes a metal kit first though. It's made by Tokyo Marui, their be a million metal kits along any minute. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 It's made by Tokyo Marui, their be a million metal kits along any minute. & as usual, avoid the Guarder one as it won't work. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
C.Costa Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 & as usual, avoid the Guarder one as it won't work. Greg. Guarder doesn't do too bad of a job, I really like the electro stuff. Hopefully they produce a full sized one. i've been wanting a kimber desert warrior for awhile now Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Guarder doesn't do too bad of a job, I really like the electro stuff. Hopefully they produce a full sized one. i've been wanting a kimber desert warrior for awhile now Well, I'm glad your experience with them has been good. I've had two Guarder full metal kits (Marui 1911 & Glock17) both of which were completely useless. Well, except the hammer spring. & I've never had a slide (3) or inner barrel (2) off of 'em that worked without needing some sort of attention! Having spoken to a few of the more experienced engineers in the field, they have confirmed a similar experience & now steer clear of Guarder Metal GBB kits. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I thought their electroplated kits were pretty good. Required about the same amount of work as Nova/Prime kits. Link to post Share on other sites
Pesh Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'm not so sure about it without the rail Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 without the rail looks great. -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 without the rail looks great. -Joe What? At last, something that doesn't suck!!!!!!!! Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 without the rail looks great. -Joe The only way that rail would come off is if they release a unholed one and a cut slide for it the slide on there is designed for a full length frame, lazyness on Marui' part but t hey get off with it with the rail on there, but I'm still awaiting metal kits to see if a correct type slide appears Go look on the kimber website, put a bib on, it's drool enducing Link to post Share on other sites
Touchette Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 It sure seems like they just half-assed this gun. I personally like a rail, very tacticool, but the way they did it makes it look like a turd. Then if it's taken off you have the holes to deal with. Then there's the slide, which is literally taken directly from the Hi-Capa 4.3; it may make good business sense to use pre-existing plans and stock, but it just doesn't quite look right. Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 It sure seems like they just half-assed this gun. I personally like a rail, very tacticool, but the way they did it makes it look like a turd. Then if it's taken off you have the holes to deal with. Then there's the slide, which is literally taken directly from the Hi-Capa 4.3; it may make good business sense to use pre-existing plans and stock, but it just doesn't quite look right. There are reasons for the holes which are valid. Without the holes, there would be no way to clamp the rail down on the lower frame to keep it steady. Also, the screws unlike most people think do no go thru the holes. Small tabs just snap in there to stabalize the rail from sliding off. Holding the gun I would hardly call it half-assed. Link to post Share on other sites
Merc Gummy Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Any idea if they went with the piston head from the Hi-capa or the the GM1911? All my Hi-capa's have piston problems over time (all 4 of them) but my 1911 have never had a problem in over 2 years, I think it's due to the plunger type design. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Sturmjager Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'm not to much a fan of sidearms with anything but a black or stainless steel frame, but this looks sexy! Link to post Share on other sites
Touchette Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 There are reasons for the holes which are valid. Without the holes, there would be no way to clamp the rail down on the lower frame to keep it steady. Also, the screws unlike most people think do no go thru the holes. Small tabs just snap in there to stabalize the rail from sliding off. Holding the gun I would hardly call it half-assed. I understand the purpose of the holes, and your post clarifies their use, but I don't like that the rail was a separate unit. They way it's done it seems more like an afterthought. It could be that TM was just attempting to cater to a wider audience by making both a railed and regular body available within the same gun, but the result isn't as nice as a 1-piece railed body or regular body (w/o holes) would have been. You haveing actually held the gun, versus me just seeing pictures, have a stronger basis to stake a claim on. I'm sure the gun is of normal TM quality and craftsman ship, but my half-assed comment referred to the rail issue I mentioned above and the fact that a regular 4.3" hi-capa slide was used (with full dust cover) instead of a normal Kimber 1911 slide. The way it appears it seems that the gun was just strewn together using extra parts laying around. That cheapens the gun and the experience for me. That is what I meant by half-assed. Link to post Share on other sites
GoLgO 13 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Got mine last week. Here are some pics... Link to post Share on other sites
suoires Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I love the look of it, but with a black 5.1" slide it would be even better IMO. To do this, all I would need is an aftermarket 5.1" slide, outer barrel, and inner barrel, correct? Everything else should be able to swap over if I'm not mistaken. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I actually like the look of this, the more I look, the more I like. Also i think it looks better with the rail on, as I think thats the hole point of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Basho Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 It's a great looking gun, but what is the range/power/accuracy? That's the deciding factor for me to switch from my beloved 1911A's Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 It's a great looking gun, but what is the range/power/accuracy? That's the deciding factor for me to switch from my beloved 1911A's I have a Marui 1911 & hi-cappa 4.3. The 4.3 has a snappier action, & higher ammo capacity, other than that, performance is the same & I bet this is too. Personally, I prefer the slim grip of the 1911, but the easier mag change on the 4.3. As the performance of the Marui Glock 17 is the same as the above, I skirmish that. It has the snappy action, slimmer grip & easy mag change. Superior performance in battle conditions, in my hands. Best of all worlds. I do have to use the 1911 for reenactment (WWII/Nam) skirmishes & really feel the difference, mag changes are a real chore. The 4.3 gets used for target/'race' shooting (I have the extended mag & slide release), mag changes are a dream & the extra rnds in the hi-cap mag are great, but it's a little chunky for normal back up/pistol games. So, back to the Glock. Shame it ain't as pretty as a 1911-a-like. Roll on the Springfield XD. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Basho Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I have a Marui 1911 & hi-cappa 4.3. Thanks for the info. More still; is the inner barrel the same length as on the 1911? I am getting more and more tempted with this. Basho Link to post Share on other sites
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