1st Commando Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Just don't ask to see his puppies and you will be fine Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Too late! Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew March Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 ASCUK gone, excellent, bunch of self important asshats! Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Such a moving memorial... Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Simply put a lot of the people who got banned deserved it. Including several who are now whining on even though the place doesn't exist anymore. Get over it and get over yourselves. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Its gone now - dead and buried, no point harping on about what forum nazi's the mods were, even if some of them did go too far to often New forum, new start, might aswell give them the benefit of the doubt and see whats it like. If those mods who abused their position at ASCUK to indulge in petty power trips are to be invited back in with open arms to assume same role in the new one, then doesnt strike me that any significant lessons have been learned how not to let a forum disappear when the owner decides to pull the plug? sure how not to surrender a forum to a power-mad bullying clique? doubt it, leopards dont change their spots. Wont be signing up - Im not going to let a casual look be turned into another notch on the registered user count, not when theres a risk of seeing that number bandied about as some sort of vote of approval for that particular 'style' of moderating 6 months down the line. Link to post Share on other sites
jethrotull Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i for one at our next site agm will be proposing that the site/club i am a member of only use arnies to advertise our opendays asuck was bad for airsoft in the uk and i cant but feel another forum set up by the same people will be as well Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 ASC bad for UK airsoft, that forum launched most of the major UK sites/retailers, people forget that, as per usual the bad washes over all the good done and it did a lot more good than bad over the years, If you're not willing to give the new forum a chance please refrain from slating it until such times as there is a reason to do so, mods will behave or they will be removed, admin will behave or it'll fall apart, I've stated moderation must be done in private, no user baiting, all carrot no stick as someone put it, make the effort, you may be pleasantly surprised, you can always vote with your feet, but I don't think that will be necessary, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 ^^^ I was one of the banned ones, and I cannot say in all honesty that ASCUK was bad for UK airsoft. It was an INCREDIBLE resource, and the retailers used ASCUK more than any other forum, so frankly Jethro, that's tosh. Fluffy was the issue, Fluffy is no more. Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 No Ed, no one man was the issue, that is unfair, we were all in it and in control of our own actions, can't gloss over the bad, but it would be nice to be given the chance with UKAZ to make some reparitions, it WILL be different Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I honestly am glad that people want to use Arnies for teams / sites / retail sections, but does it have to be a case of all of your eggs in one basket? I will do everything I can here to support any team, site or retailer that wants to get their message across to the airsofting community using Arnies, but I don't think that has to necessarily be at the expense of any other forum, old or new. I'm not sure in the case of commercial ventures that this necessarily makes the best sense either - although far be it from me to speculate when I know a lot of folks know far more than me about doing business within the airsoft sector. I honestly don't see any harm in using Arnies alongside countless other forums. Each forum has its respective members and differing climates, and the more forums you use, the more likely you are to contact as wide a potential client / player base as possible. Besides - is it really worth bearing a grudge with people over the actions of a few individuals they have had an association with? Look at what happened with all that ASCUK and Arnies nonsense back in 04/05 - it didn't really help anyone, did it? This hobby has enough problems with external opposition for us to continue being at each others throats. Let's just accept that there can be more than just one or two forums around and focus on helping each other out when we're down - not laying the boot in. Link to post Share on other sites
jethrotull Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 it is not about "putting the boot in" asuck had a critical mass i belive it came first in any goole search for an airsoft forums in the uk. now those days are gone and site operators and retailers who could not ignor asuck because of that critical mass ,now can if they choose to. Aitch i am sorry if you think i am having a personal go at you i am not. but your two colleges both treated people very very badly on asuck in my experiance and although you have stated things will be differant this time around and that may well be for a while but old habbits are very hard to break. if you prove myself and others wrong good on you Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Agree with Shriven- the information on there made ASCUK an exceptionally valuable resource to the UK airsoft community, and the actions of a couple of people shouldnt taint the whole enterprise. Given that Fluffy has helpfully *albatross* *fruitcage*ed the UK airsoft community I'd say good *fruitcage* riddance to him; at the same time, let's give Aitch Beaker and Taffy the benefit of the doubt and let UKAZ be judged on its own merits Link to post Share on other sites
creepingfear Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 To be honest i am not that gutted about this. Everytime i used ASCUK, either to post or to sell something i got some jumped up Moderator with a Hitler complex telling me i wasn't doing it right. Even when the rues were followed the same attitude came up. Of all the sites i have been on Arnies is the only one so far that has not succumbed to excessive eliteness and bad moderation. I do feel sorry for those stuck in the middle of a transaction or sale but it does pay to make sure you have another contact besides the site you are dealing on. In short to the attitude and general bad times i had on ASCUK good ridance. 'FireKnife' I'm in total agreement. Manners and courtesy cost nothing and they had none. Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Any other websites you all want to slag off while we're at it? Link to post Share on other sites
creepingfear Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Not sure if thats a reply to my post or not but if it is, your understanding of english must be different to mine, as I haven't said anything to "slag" if off as you say, that isn't well known fact. Hence my opinion of my post stands. Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Not to you in particular, but I don't think this thread is going to accomplish anything productive if it's just a place for people to complain about how the forums were run. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 ^^^ Nazi mod *flees* Link to post Share on other sites
jethrotull Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Any other websites you all want to slag off while we're at it? well i hate these guys they suck the big fat one http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/index.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 well i hate these guys they suck the big fat one http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/index.htm Link to post Share on other sites
The General Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I dislike all the adverts on Youtube now. Quite irritating. Link to post Share on other sites
hunter512 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 So after a mere thirty seconds of searching Jethro, you're a new member and over half your posts are basically saying ASCUK was am teh gayest. Is there an agenda behind your posting or are you just kinda bitter and unable to get over your ®ejection from there? Link to post Share on other sites
jethrotull Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 So after a mere thirty seconds of searching Jethro, you're a new member and over half your posts are basically saying ASCUK was am teh gayest. Is there an agenda behind your posting or are you just kinda bitter and unable to get over your ®ejection from there? i think it might just be a little late for me to say i loved asuck dont you? Link to post Share on other sites
fossilfuel Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i think it might just be a little late for me to say i loved asuck dont you? Far too late it's gone! Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Ok. I'm really done with all the "ASCUK Ruled/sucked" stuff so let's put an end to that, eh? I'm gonna close this and start a new thread with links to the two new sites so people can talk about them if they want. Link to post Share on other sites
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