Stealthbomber Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Linky. Blimey! Not much politics or diplomacy going on there. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 All i see in this video is an MP aggrivating some allready aggrivated men and then attacking one of them. Granted it dosen't show the whole story but given only what the video shows the MP seems the attacker, both verbaly and physically. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 He's not an MP, he's a prospective BNP candidate and obviously a thug. This is the main issue the BNP face in trying to present themselves as a mainstream party. They always *fruitcage* up and look like the bunch of loser, racist, idiots they really are. Which is good! Link to post Share on other sites
AceOfSkulls Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 alot of the BNP candidates and cabinet members have been done for violence, so this does not surprise me. Link to post Share on other sites
Jon L Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 there is that ukip chappy that had a plane crash today as well, not a good day for the, well i dont count them as parties but right wing people posing as politicians??? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 To be fair, the Asian guy spat at him first. I don't know if I could resist kicking off if that happened to me. At the end of the day, both parties come off as pond life imo. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 He accuses the Asian guys of being robbers! I think the spitting wasn't warranted but can see the appeal of it where bigots like that BNP guy are concerned. However the Asian guys aren't running to be an MP which is probably the main own goal this whole thing shows up. "BNP member is a racist thug" isn't after all news or suprising. "BNP parlimentary candidate assaults Asian man" is! Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted May 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 This is the main issue the BNP face in trying to present themselves as a mainstream party. They always *fruitcage* up and look like the bunch of loser, racist, idiots they really are. Which is good! Exactly. There are a lot of voters out there who probably think the tories are going a bit soft and start to consider the BNP as the only party prepared to really "stick up for" the UK as a nation. Hopefully this sort of thing will remind them that a thug in a suit is still a thug. To be fair, the Asian guy spat at him first. I don't know if I could resist kicking off if that happened to me. At the end of the day, both parties come off as pond life imo. Yeah but one guy (as far as we know) is nothing more than a chavvy git while the other is a guy with plans to become part of our government. How's a guy like that going to deal with delicate political situations such as Northern Ireland or, god forbid, anything related to foriegn policy? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 How's a guy like that going to deal with delicate political situations such as Northern Ireland or, god forbid, anything related to foriegn policy? Hopefully we'll never have to find out. Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 To be fair, the Asian guy spat at him first. I don't know if I could resist kicking off if that happened to me. At the end of the day, both parties come off as pond life imo. ^ +1 Spitting is physical assault - verbal abuse is not. Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 He accuses the Asian guys of being robbers! No he did not. He made a joke in reference to one of the lads who was wearing a black & white striped top. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 ^ +1 Spitting is physical assault - verbal abuse is not. Which obviously makes it okay for you and your mates to then attack all three guys nearby and for several of you to lay into one, kicking him in the head whilst he is lying on the floor... not. So verbal abuse < spitting < kicking someone on the ground. I don't think the BNP fellas come out looking good in that comparison. However in the UK you don't have to even touch someone to commit common assault. Even making silent telephone calls could get you a conviction. Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Like I said - both parties came out looking like asshats. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 No he did not. He made a joke in reference to one of the lads who was wearing a black & white striped top. So even worse than their prospective MP and his thuggy mates assaulting people on film they haven't got a sense of humour worth a damn. The BNP really are a joke. Clearly the candidate of a racist party making a joke about Asian youths being robbers is going to go down like a lead ballon. Link to post Share on other sites
slacky Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I thought the big asian guy would of looked after himself abit better then that... Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 No he did not. He made a joke in reference to one of the lads who was wearing a black & white striped top. What? He says 'How many of youse are robbers?', and not in a joking tone of voice or with a particularly happy looking face. If he was making a joke about the black and white striped top he would have directed the question at that single person, not the entire group. He would presumably have also tried to say 'it was only intended as a joke' when they get upset instead of 'there are more of us than you' and proceeding to kick a man on the floor in the head. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Yup, thats a parliamentary candidate and his minders giving a teenager lying on the floor a kicking... Link to post Share on other sites
mattmanic Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 That's pretty messed up, even for a BNP member. He should take a leave out of Cameron's book. Although this isn't new, wasn't it Prescott who atleast tried to punch someone who threw something at him? Link to post Share on other sites
Jon L Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 yea but that was only prescott kicking off this is 5/6 grown men taking on teens. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Apparently, they have been experiencing BNP intimidation of voters outside Barking polling station (Nick Griffin's home ward). http://www.flickr.com/photos/49498159@N02/4584961904/ Link to post Share on other sites
jay bee Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Essentially the guy basically called the kids bluff. The guy who spat was (I imagine) thinking "he's a politician, he's not actually going to do anything", unfortunately for him a BNP politician is just a yob in a suit. Though the BNP are making some relatively significant steps to becoming a more legitimate political party, they are still mostly racist thugs, even if they try to water down their policies. The fairly substantial difference between the image they're trying to promote, and the actual reality of the people standing for seats and so on, kind of makes me want freedom of speech to have less restrictions. Not because I want to hear racist things said, I just think it might be better if they got their bigotry out in the open, and show their actual views. Might help stop their increasing popularity.. But anyway, they're pretty insignificant. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 The fairly substantial difference between the image they're trying to promote, and the actual reality of the people standing for seats and so on, kind of makes me want freedom of speech to have less restrictions. Not because I want to hear racist things said, I just think it might be better if they got their bigotry out in the open, and show their actual views. Might help stop their increasing popularity.. But anyway, they're pretty insignificant. They aren't restricted from being racists apart from incitement to violence and the like. They are consciously trying to censor themselves in a bid to be electable. There is a video of Nick Griffen saying as much at a KKK meeting in the USA. Thankfully they seem to have polled less than they did at the euro elections and have failed miserably to even gain a single seat. Link to post Share on other sites
jay bee Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 They aren't restricted from being racists apart from incitement to violence and the like. They are consciously trying to censor themselves in a bid to be electable. There is a video of Nick Griffen saying as much at a KKK meeting in the USA. Thankfully they seem to have polled less than they did at the euro elections and have failed miserably to even gain a single seat. I was under the impression that there were laws against saying racist and homophobic things? Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 There are hate crime laws for certain. They just word things carefully so they stay just inside the line of what is permissable, at least when the media is around anyway. The US can't have hate crime laws as at least 1/5th of their current senators and congressmen would be criminals now Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I was under the impression that there were laws against saying racist and homophobic things? There aren't really. There is incitement to racial hatred which Nick Griffin has a conviction for but thats more specific than just saying racist stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
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