bankz5152 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Think its the same material as whats in the MP7. Some kind of hard rubber, the seal isnt the best and does require a bit of lube every now and then. Might actually get that bit... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 If you use green gas, the gun's going to get plenty of lube...including the hop bucking. LoL! Seeing as the loading nozzle gets pulled back, I would think that the stock plastic/rubber piston head would cushion the impact of the loading nozzle. If you replace it with something harder...shock might get transferred to the plastic loading nozzle and boom! Who knows though... The stock part is holding up fine. No issues with it and seeing a how it lasts...I'll just get an OEM replacement when its time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thats a bloody good point Snoop. Hmmm made me think that over now. But isnt the bit it would 'hit' be the steel bolt? Wouldnt mind Falcon coming out with a hop rubber and TB could do with a touch more range. Also dont have the best confidence in KWA rubbers lasting... One thing is for sure I feel bad for people with Inokatsus/ steel WOCs... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thats a bloody good point Snoop. Hmmm made me think that over now. But isnt the bit it would 'hit' be the steel bolt? Wouldnt mind Falcon coming out with a hop rubber and TB could do with a touch more range. Also dont have the best confidence in KWA rubbers lasting... One thing is for sure I feel bad for people with Inokatsus/ steel WOCs... Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 The bolt carrier is supposedly steel. The bolt.....or should I say, loading nozzle assembly isn't. The way I look at it, my piston lid has lasted over 5000 rounds and is still in pretty darn good shape. It'll last longer...since it lasts, why not replace it with the same part as its proven to last? It'd probably also be a cheaper replacement....more so with me as I'm in the US though If I'm not mistaken, the hop bucking for the KWA LM4 and KWA KRISS are similar...possibly compatible. I have one of those Guarder hop buckings for the KSC/KWA M4 GBB's on hand and 3 more coming in some time next week as well as my KWA LM4C GBB. I'd install it but I already have my hop up set for the tracer .25g BBs that I use through my gun. I don't really feel like checking for parts compatibility at this point as my gun works well. I've never had any KWA hop bucking swell on me. I use propane exclusively. I lube what needs lubing manually when I take down the guns. The last KSC/KWA pistol I owned was a Glock 17 with the OEM Metal Slide with full trademarks from 2003. My buddy has it now. Other KWA GBB's I owned before I let that go included a couple of KWA MP7's and a KWA MP9. My time with those guns were pretty short lived. Probably ran less than 2000 rounds through em before selling em. They were more of "to try out" guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Good point chap. Im not one to frivolously install parts any how, somtimes just like to talk it through. Personally every KWA ive had has had a hop swell, I also only run Propane with a couple tiny drops of silicone. As you do only greese when I take down keeping it well away from the hop unit. Not sure why... I know the hop design is the same, just don't know if the actually rubber is. Still need to properly set my hop... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Because there's silicone in your propane, if you do run your propane "wet" ensure you're using very little and only every couple of magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Its about 3-5 drops every 20 mag fills. Hardly anything Though after most games add a quick spirt of GG into each mag. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 3-5 seems like a lot of silicone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Considering Madbull say 3-4 every 10 fills. And thats if i even remember! Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Fired less than 50 rounds in total... lookie lookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 fully loaded mag loaded in the gun with the bolt closed ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) fully loaded mag loaded in the gun with the bolt closed ? Nope, it broke half way through firing a magazine rather than first shot.. *edit* semi-auto for what it's worth... Edited February 4, 2013 by blobface Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 That is caused by over loading a magazine. Even if its already in the gun Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm getting the vipe that this was my fault...? Can't recall any nozzle breaking from any of my other GBBs... besides... it's hard to overload a KWA magazine since if I load it to the max, the loader button won't disengage even if I press it as the BBs are still pushing it back.. am I alone in thinking that something is wrong with my gun... lemon nozzle? I mean... it did break with less than 50 rounds.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Probably a lemon nozzle. You might want to contact for a spare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Anyone had their serial numbers removed if ordering from Overseas? According to WGCShop if the Kriss is being shipped out of the specific country i.e EU US HK then the serial number must be removed prior to shipping? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 They don't remove anything to send them to Spain. In fact with the new law we need those numbers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'd say lemon nozzle as well. The piece that broke gets chambered into the middle of the feed ramp so an over loaded mag would hit a few mm past the tip of the bb extractor so over loading should not have caused this. Unfortunately, there probably wont be spares available for a while Who knows if the retailer you bought it from will do what Echigoya did for me when my TM MP7 nozzle broke. Echigoya took a loading nozzle assembly off of one of their TM MP7's and sent it to me postage paid after reading in my review on Arnies that my nozzle busted after little use....I didn't have to contact them. They contacted me about replacement. How cool was that?! For anything Marui, I'm buying from them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Echigoya is THE BEST Airsoft retailer around for their customer service. I wish they sold more products as Id order from them more often. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) For those who aren't familia, one of my favourite up and coming airsoft accessory company "Wii-tech" is producing an aluminium CNC nozzle for the Kriss, I have just contacted them about it and they said they already had plans for it and will be releasing them late March early April. I've got their CNC nozzle for the TM XDM, which is absolutely fantastic, they aren't straight clones, so the design had been simplified and reinforced (no funny bits with tiny screw on top like the standard TM design, they've gone for a more GHK AK style nozzle, spring, valve and pin) So that's good news for anyone who has had or will have the issue I've experienced... *oh and wii-tech has their own shop, including one on ebay, I love it when I can buy directly from the manufacturer. Edited February 6, 2013 by blobface Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Personally not a big fan of metal nozzles. Personally seen them shatter rounds and damage other parts. Not to mention the fact that more metal in the bbu/chamber increasing cooldown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've pretty much bought any metal nozzle I could find for most of my GBBs... they do require a bit of filing to ensure they work perfectly, but I swear by metal nozzles, when people have their bb's smashed up, it's more to do with the chamber and feeder alignment. As for cool down... I'm can't see it being affected.. at least not on a level where it's noticeable, metal doesn't make things cold, it simply conducts better, so on a cold day, you could argue the environment inside the nozzle would reach the temperature of its surrounding quicker than a plastic one, but it also means it warms quicker if the outside is warmer... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Ill pass on a metal nozzle for the kriss. The stock loading nozzle holds up just fine. Metal would also mean heavier...itll further eat up gas. Forget the simplified kjw type nozzles. .the tm design allows for more consistent shot per shot fps output....now if we made a plastic nozzle that has the marui type flute valve.....then id definitely be interested Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hey guys, my kriss turned up today, gonna say, i love it. I am gagging to get up to my site this weekend now However, and sorry if this has been covered already, didn't remember seeing it, the charging handle on it seems seriously stiff. I have seen the advice that i shouldn't extend it all the way out and should pull from the base so was doing that. But it seems really hard to pull it back and the bolt doesn't seem to slide forward under it's own steam, i have to push the handle back to the front. Seems to shoot ok though. Any ideas? is this normal or do i need to drop some of the oil on it somewhere? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 New gun = strip, clean and oil. GBBRs ship dry from the factory (not quite sure why; maybe to lessen the risk of oil seeping into the packaging?) and should be cleaned, checked for swarf, burrs, seamlines and other manufacturing messes you can quickly and easily tidy up, and then oiled before shooting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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