Wingmann Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 How is the spread with those? At 10m they don't diverge much, but it's got a nice spread from 20m and up. At about 40m they take the space of a football. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 There has to be some inconsistencies in the hops on these as on my tactical, using abby ultra (340fps with Xcortech chrono on 3 shot mode) .2s are shooting out straight and far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 The inconsistency may be the ambient temperature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Would the ambient temperature not be quickly negated by having cold gas blown over the hop rubber contact point in quick succession? Or maybe I'm over thinking it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drifty Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Recieved via ups today! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Are you sure you didn't get any silicon oil on the hop up? That can also affect your bbs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Me? If I did, I hope it stays there, it's perfect on .2s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k30dxedle Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Has this been posted yet? Checked around in here and the fix and tuning thread and didn't see it, although that's admittedly not exactly exhaustive. http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=35857 105 USD aluminum nozzle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Me? If I did, I hope it stays there, it's perfect on .2s Oh, sorry. Misread your previous comment. Thought you were experiencing inconsistent bb trajectories with every shot. Which is a symptoms I experienced in my aeg when I got silicon oil on my hop up. But I'm surprised you are getting flat flight trajectories on 0.20g. Everyone has experienced over-hop and I've only recently experienced it myself. What type of gas are you running the breacher? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corkie121 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Haven't seen a solid answer on this until now, so in case anyone else is still uncertain, the stocks are 100% interchangeable between tactical and breacher versions of this. Makes sense that it's the case, but nice to have it confirmed. Not my photo or guns but here we are: Cheers Edit: Should also mean that buffer tube stocks will fit on the breacher too. Edited August 30, 2014 by Corkie121 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Yay my breacher shipped, now waiting for NYC customs to clear it........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 So after 4-6 months of being charged with 134a gas, my tactical's&s tank expanded. Tank held gas just fine....just that it was tougher to take out. The room it was left with gets lit by the afternoon sun. Typical valley temp in California where temps reach in the 90-100 range over the past 3 months. Emptied the gas out of the tank then proceeded to repair my puffy gas tank using the trusty rubber mallet. Hit it here and there and it's back to popping out of the stock after the release latch gets pressed even when not gassed up. So I guess I'm not storing the tank with a lot of gas. Maybe a jab of two with 134a will suffice. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Haven't seen a solid answer on this until now, so in case anyone else is still uncertain, the stocks are 100% interchangeable between tactical and breacher versions of this. Makes sense that it's the case, but nice to have it confirmed. Not my photo or guns but here we are: image.jpg Cheers Edit: Should also mean that buffer tube stocks will fit on the breacher too. Won't lie. The tactical with the pistolgrip looks good, with the extended mag tube it'll be better. But the full stock on the breacher? That's just no. No no no no. Rather put an m4 style buffer tube stock with pistol grip on that. Also, I realised the slightly longer inner barrels of the tactical with the stock gas tank mod is giving it real potential as a outdoor primary if you're the type to assault fast and the map has a lot of cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kojak Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Toy Soldier has some stickers so you can dress up Marui mags as hinge busters: Sidesaddles don't make any sense on a breacher, though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Toy Soldier has some stickers so you can dress up Marui mags as hinge busters: Sidesaddles don't make any sense on a breacher, though. ... And pump actions are poor substitute for a proper semi-auto shotgun breacher. But it looks Tacticool and that's half the fun of airsoft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 There's still many armed forces that use the short mcs for breaching and it's a pump action. I think part of it is the fact it's simple and always works Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Breacher came today, fun as hell to shoot. 3 and 6 shot modes work flawlessly. I'll be putting it through the paces this weekend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Toy Soldier has some stickers so you can dress up Marui mags as hinge busters: Sidesaddles don't make any sense on a breacher, though. this might go well on any shells, including my cheap UTG shells! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) So, is this gun worth the Canadian mark up price? About $450 - $500 * 1.13 tax = $508-565 CDN.' (breacher) Edited September 3, 2014 by BioRage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Just wait. It will come down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) There's still many armed forces that use the short mcs for breaching and it's a pump action. I think part of it is the fact it's simple and always works You have a point, pump actions are more versatile, which is why the military still use them. But law enforcement and other specialised unit are moving more into semi-auto short barrel shotguns for breaching duties. When they are only used for breaching, vital seconds between having to pump and rack to the semi-auto action makes all the difference as well as the larger capacity of shells . Either way, if you have the real steel version of this shotgun, a side saddle would be perfect. Either for range shooting, hunting or self defence, usually what you have on the shotgun is all you got, it make sense. It certainly helps in the airsoft game, then feeding it from a belt/vest mounted shot-caddie since you only have to load one shotshell magazine. I found myself naturally falling into a very quick reloading pattern, only problem is trying to stop myself from using the over-top combat loading technique into the chamber, to get a 6+1 max capacity. it can really mess you up if you are well seasoned with the real steel version. Which is why i've been eyeing the CAM 870....but it ain't exactly skirmishable and seems to be disallowed for CQB in Hong Kong in most airsoft groups. (too hot). Edited September 3, 2014 by onizuka-gto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Anyone have the problem of the smaller body pin backing out after a few shells? Mine seems to be doing it Edited September 3, 2014 by -wigs- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 No problems with mine. There may be locking pins available for them as an upgrade. Does it go any farther than that? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 On the Tactical it came out for my friend(whom I sold it to) to the point it was inside the gun on one side but thankfully I could just push it back to its place. It doesn't move that easy, just keep an eye on it every so often. Or buy the First Factory locking pins(its out of stock unfortunatelly both on WGC and Ehobby) as Snoopy suggested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 You can buy it on the Tokyo-model.com.hk store. It's an aftermarket bolt with a round head screw retainer to stop it from coming out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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