Finbarqs Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 the gun won't catch G1 mags, nor G&P Pmags, nor Pro Win Mags, pretty much any mag with the valve locker. Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Well I'm not sure why you would use anything except the excellent GHK mags anyway... Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Still deciding...I'm torn between this and the marui gbbr.... Its one way or the other because the mags are a killer on the wallet. I need at least 5-6 mags Link to post Share on other sites
steinarsen44 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Still deciding...I'm torn between this and the marui gbbr.... Its one way or the other because the mags are a killer on the wallet. I need at least 5-6 magsYea, Tell me about it... Bought the ghk with 6 extra mags. With import tax and shipping it was over 1100 USD total. Most ive ever spent on a stock gun with mags. Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Yea, Tell me about it... Bought the ghk with 6 extra mags. With import tax and shipping it was over 1100 USD total. Most ive ever spent on a stock gun with mags. You only live once. Question is, was it worth it? As for the Marui, with their track record, it could be another year before we see release. Its likely to perform well, but weather they can work some Marui magic or not, only time will tell! Link to post Share on other sites
steinarsen44 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 You only live once. Question is, was it worth it? As for the Marui, with their track record, it could be another year before we see release. Its likely to perform well, but weather they can work some Marui magic or not, only time will tell! Only time will tell, If it performs as it does now for a Long time without issues, my answer is yes^^ Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I can't work out if I want one or not! Or to spend the money on some pimping out of my WE...or switch to KWA..or wait for Marui to release theirs....ARGH I HATE AIRSOFT! That's GBBR's for you. EVERY single design is flawed in some way or another (and I've worked on all of them - GHK is sitting here waiting to be taken apart and examined ) - If someone could take the best points of each design and combine the lot they'd be on to a winner! **edit**. I fully expect there to be at least one flaw with the TM (my definition of flaw includes "uses lots of proprietary parts that cannot be swapped with real ones and cant be gotten hold of for love nor money as spares") Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 That's GBBR's for you. EVERY single design is flawed in some way or another (and I've worked on all of them - GHK is sitting here waiting to be taken apart and examined ) - If someone could take the best points of each design and combine the lot they'd be on to a winner! **edit**. I fully expect there to be at least one flaw with the TM (my definition of flaw includes "uses lots of proprietary parts that cannot be swapped with real ones and cant be gotten hold of for love nor money as spares") A very good point. Thats why I chose WE originally, usable out of the box, but also the biggest aftermarket support. New alternative steel bolt coming from Angry Gun soon too. However, very interested to see how well the GHK is built and performs vs WE and other WA platforms. Link to post Share on other sites
Feyd Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Just had a play with this little one, action feels a little rough (when cocked manually), but cycles beautifully! It's a bit hot on Nuprol 2 (I got 370, down to 330 by the end of a fairly fast fired full mag), I've yet to try it on any other gasses though. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 YOU HAVE IT IN STOCK AND YOU DIDNT TELL ME?!?!?!?! We will be having words next time I'm in store!! M870 parts have arrived btw! Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 A very good point. Thats why I chose WE originally, usable out of the box, but also the biggest aftermarket support. New alternative steel bolt coming from Angry Gun soon too. However, very interested to see how well the GHK is built and performs vs WE and other WA platforms. WE aren't supported too badly by the aftermarket companies, but you can get a helluva lot more for the WA derived designs than you can for the WE. I'm just hoping that an AG bolt will be as good as their barrels, not as ###### poor as their M-4 recoil kits (AWFUL things!). It would be nice to have a bolt that's not made from low quality soft steel! (the RA-Tech). As to performance of the GHK, having banged a few mags through it already, it's up there with a sorted ViperTech in my opinion, though i'm not sure if I like the Hop-up system as much as the 2012 VT - but it's streets ahead of the Inokatsu! Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 WE aren't supported too badly by the aftermarket companies, but you can get a helluva lot more for the WA derived designs than you can for the WE. I'm just hoping that an AG bolt will be as good as their barrels, not as ###### poor as their M-4 recoil kits (AWFUL things!). It would be nice to have a bolt that's not made from low quality soft steel! (the RA-Tech). As to performance of the GHK, having banged a few mags through it already, it's up there with a sorted ViperTech in my opinion, though i'm not sure if I like the Hop-up system as much as the 2012 VT - but it's streets ahead of the Inokatsu! Still, there is plenty of aftermarket options for the WE, with more coming all the time. Whereas I find a lot of WA stuff is out of stock/maybe not in production anymore? Would be nice to see how compatible the GHK is with some of them though, namely things like charging handles etc Back to the GHK, any chance of any internal shots of the hop system? Rating it up there with the Viper Tech, is a bit subjective. Depends how highly you rate VT . One of you early owners needs to get an in-depth review/first impressions done Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Luckily there's more coming all the time, as some of what we're currently offered is pretty shocking. Take the FCG for example, the RA-Tech ones depart from the original design and use low quality steel, the TSC ones are hard steel but incredibly poorly machined, the Haephestus ones have a truly awful surface finish on the sear surfaces so you get an awful trigger pull. The CWI ones are the best by far, but sadly the valve lock set they do is for CB, not OB, and the edges of the trigger are neither chamfered or rounded off so they're a bit harsh on the trigger finger after a while :-/ As to Hop-up systems, i've got several WOC's turning up soon, so when i've got time i'll strip them all out and do a side-by-side comparison between G&P, VT 2012, GHK and Inok - puts things in context then! VT stuff could be a bit hit n miss in the past, but with the recent incarnation of them if you wanted the best WA-derived system out of the box then a 2012 Inok was your best bet. I think that GHK, however, might have just nicked that spot on the podium from them now - and at a FAR better price. Link to post Share on other sites
Feyd Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 YOU HAVE IT IN STOCK AND YOU DIDNT TELL ME?!?!?!?! We will be having words next time I'm in store!! M870 parts have arrived btw! Errrr, ooops! Cool, drop them by any we'll get it back on the road, anyway, back on topic... Anyone else feel the action was a little rough? Like 2 textured surfaces rubbing together? Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Luckily there's more coming all the time, as some of what we're currently offered is pretty shocking. Take the FCG for example, the RA-Tech ones depart from the original design and use low quality steel, the TSC ones are hard steel but incredibly poorly machined, the Haephestus ones have a truly awful surface finish on the sear surfaces so you get an awful trigger pull. The CWI ones are the best by far, but sadly the valve lock set they do is for CB, not OB, and the edges of the trigger are neither chamfered or rounded off so they're a bit harsh on the trigger finger after a while :-/ As to Hop-up systems, i've got several WOC's turning up soon, so when i've got time i'll strip them all out and do a side-by-side comparison between G&P, VT 2012, GHK and Inok - puts things in context then! VT stuff could be a bit hit n miss in the past, but with the recent incarnation of them if you wanted the best WA-derived system out of the box then a 2012 Inok was your best bet. I think that GHK, however, might have just nicked that spot on the podium from them now - and at a FAR better price. Then you use the RAT valve lock set and CWI FCG. Simple The RAT full set has never given me any problems though personally. The ghk looks very similar in the FCG department to the WA system, except the bolt catch? Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Yeah, not a lot of difference between the GHK, WOC, VFC, KA, Inok, ViperTech FCG's really - same basic design, just different flavours with a few changes on some of them here and there. Link to post Share on other sites
steinarsen44 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Made a little shooting vid to show the gas efficiency and how cooldown resistant it is, using G5 magazines. Dont mind my broken english Link to post Share on other sites
OriginUK Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Looks good. You should have done semi to see how many shots you'd get before refill as well. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Nice, thanks for the cool down review. 1J Bolt now available on Samoon. http://samoon.com.tw/m4-15-1J *bought the 1J bolt, and also one CO2 mag to test it out. Anyone has any idea if any existing 3rd party ambi-switch is compatible with this? Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 one of the key differences between the GHK Design and the Traditional WA design is that the selector pin comes from the pistol grip -- kind of like a real AR-15. But it's a modified GHK edition. The trigger also has an extra spring that pushes against the hammer -- haven't determined why yet, and the bolt catch (carrier catch) actuates a separate steel piece to come up and stop the carrier. Interesting design. The catch itself is made out of steel, so is that extra piece as well too. The piece kind of indents inward so that releasing the catch is actually a bit tough. (it actually feels like a real AR-15 when you release it -- or at least it takes the same force to release the catch) Link to post Share on other sites
Hite Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Any UK stores going to be stocking this soon, or will it be an import job? Alex Link to post Share on other sites
Griff762 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Pro Airsoft should have some in soon. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 With the 1j bolt griff? Link to post Share on other sites
TB-Stalker Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Anyone know if you can get this without the gay *albatross* trades or with colt ones? Link to post Share on other sites
steinarsen44 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Semi auto test: Got around 80 shots before performance went to low in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
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