carabinero Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Expecting to find here some more vids or hands on reviews of the new WE HK416C, FAIL... Link to post Share on other sites
TnL Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 nope this is now GHK AK thread, move along Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Come on, were is the extra 416c info? Maybe a bit about the stock . . . . . Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Going on how WE tend to make available spares of everything, I'm sure it won't be long until the GBBR version is available separately. Not sure that'll help everyone wanting an AEG version though! Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 WE will be releasing the 416c aeg as its shown on the box and handbook of the aeg 416 we just have to wait Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Also, VFC do an AEG version of their HK416c. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 you can buy the VFC 416c AEG stock from KIC BB Gun Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 We do seem to get a lot of info about VFC in WE threads? Do people with VFC also have WE's? For comparison and also compatibility (swapping stocks, grips etc)? Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Do people with VFC also have WE's? For comparison and also compatibility (swapping stocks, grips etc)? I reckon both of those are pretty unlikely. VFC sit at the cost-no-object end of the GBB scale, plus you have to spend extensively to get them to work right. All told a VFC HK416c GBB would probably be three times the projected cost of the WE with both upgraded to reliable mid-to-long-term function. The reason you're seeing them compared here is because the only other HK416cs on the market (both GBB and AEG) are made by VFC. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 1st Commando generally has both VFC and WE stuff but I guess he's a special case being industry. Link to post Share on other sites
Tisane Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm a big fan of both, having used both, they have their upsides and their downsides. Being a bit of a trades and realism junkie I lean towards VFC these days, that said I do have a WE P228 that I love almost as much as my kids Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Trades don't always bother me, unless they're engraved (like the P226 that is by WE or that other company). But if a rifle just has laser etched trades, I can live without them (even if the real deal has laser etched trade marks). I like to paint my aeg's/gbbr's any way. So the trade marks on a rifle don't really come in to it. Though I do like engraved trade marks, just correct engraved trademarks/name. Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 OK, so got the WE 416c in today and did some playing around with it. It did have a similar problem of not locking back but it was more inconsistent that unable. I shimmed the bolt catch b/c it had a lot of side to side movement as all WE M4's seem to have and lubed it up and now it locks back just fine. I believe the problem from the now infamous video from Ryan Sin was that the buffer tube assembly was screwed in one turn too many. In a normal M4, the buffer tube is screwed all the way to the buffer lock. On my WE M4 that is how it is BUT on the 416c it appears to be at least one turn away from the buffer lock. If screwed all the way to the buffer lock, I could see how it would create a short stroking scenario. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Video by Nugentgl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftWasgOYxtA#start=0:00;end=12:16;cycles=-1;autoreplay=false;showoptions=false Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bolt stop/lock seems to be hit and miss just in general and he got it working sometimes with stock retracted. So I dunnoz True to the RS HK416C in my book Link to post Share on other sites
biMMer25 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Between this and the VFC, I'll go with the WE. VFC guns tend to need major, major, major, major, major (did I say major yet?) work to get them to at least fire a couple of rounds without ###### themselves. Getting them to skirmishable status? Be prepared to not use the gun for a while as you track down the parts needed to make it work. At least WE guns shoot for a couple of thousand rounds before breaking. I got the VFC and it work fine and shoots accurate with the A+ rubber and yep it's skirmishable. I bought this second hand and already had a problem with it but iv'e fixed it already and still working with the stock internals about 2000 rounds fired + unknown rounds from previous owner. The only problem I had is finding the replacement parts (BCG) here in PH since most players here uses WE and WA platform. The good thing about the VFC is that the replacement parts are cheap. I cant compare it to the WE regarding the reliability since I dont own and never own one. Link to post Share on other sites
biMMer25 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Take a look at this video by nugentgl guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KcZDw4rO78 Link to post Share on other sites
Krydel Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Newb question alert: Anything to stop you taking one of these stocks and throwing it on a standard m4? They're pretty cool, but not about to shell out for a 416c in its entirety for a stock. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 RA had a video of that and it appeared to work. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 The buffer, buffer tube and spring are smaller than on a normal m4, but RAT got the 416C stock working on a WE M4. See this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W6zMt0Krto Link to post Share on other sites
jareyes Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I've also ordered just the buffer tube parts so we'll see in a few weeks when it gets to me. My money is on it working properly though, since that RA video posted above swaps out the bolts. Fingers crossed Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 You can order WE HK416c parts individually? Link to post Share on other sites
bondkiller Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 You can order WE HK416c parts individually? I would like to know this as well, and where to order from. Link to post Share on other sites
jareyes Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 That's correct. I got my stock parts in today from cwi airsoft, just gotta search for it on their site with 888-c. Ordered my parts on Saturday and they're already here in Canada and on my gun. Fantastic speed, and fantastic parts. I can also confirm that the end-cap for the buffer tube does need to be backed out by one turn to prevent the short-stroke/fail to lock back condition. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Just had a quick look via this link:- http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/advanced_search_result.php?Twesid=1fe64a94caa9cbcd06bf925b4aed8eab&keywords=888-c&x=-875&y=-573 Should be able to see the stock and complete gbb, via the link above. Link to post Share on other sites
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