Hedganian Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 It seems to only be on sales groups - the Airsoft "discussion/community" groups where sales aren't allowed are still okay. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Google's photo recognition is crazy good. It can pick up search terms that are only in the photo in the form of a small reflection in a window. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's also people doing it out of spite one of the big anti groups was pushing members to Join gun and airsoft groups to get people banned. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Nice. I just don't get why people act like that. I mean, they don't gain anything by doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Lack of interesting hobbies of their own I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's also people doing it out of spite one of the big anti groups was pushing members to Join gun and airsoft groups to get people banned. You got a link for that? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Have to say I'm still a little unclear on the rules. Are we just not allowed to post any pictures of weapon-like things anywhere anymore? I can type "gun" into my Google Photo search and it finds all images I've ever taken with my phone of my airsoft stuff that looked like guns, including a gearbox. Both Facebook and Google are pretty good with their image recognition technology... Where's a very expensive cake in the shape of a gun when ya need one?? Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 The David silverman article here is one piece plus I have seen stuff quoted on fb with people bragging about doing it shared on pages I'm on http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/02/daniel-silverman/anti-gunners-responsible-for-pro-2a-facebook-page-deletions/ Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 "no offense" but if you read the article it more or less says the exact opposite - namely that "pro gun" groups - in this case "1 million moms AGAINST gun control" have "worked with" facebook in restoring pages of registered dealers that were taken down... Link to post Share on other sites
Supernanny Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I blame the 13 year olds who set up groups where they could buy and sell guns without any fear of legal issues. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yeah.. I doubt it. Airsoft is such a tiny community compared to firearms you can barely make a comparison, the chances that this change was actually brought about by airsoft are pretty close to zero. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 More do with that some 2,000 have been killed by guns in the US this year so far.. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yes, let's turn this in to another gun ownership debate thread. That's what we all want. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 pop a xanax man I'm not debating gun ownership I was offering my opinion on why facebook has banned "unlicensed" sale of gun related items!! Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 lol, sorry, take some drugs? You are amusing. How is throwing out statistics on 'gun deaths' not implying an intent to debate the matter? Or do you just want to put forward your side of the issue and nobody else is allowed to counter? Fact is facebook has not banned 'unlicensed' sales, they've banned private sales which are perfectly legal in many, many parts of the states, commercial entities are allowed to continue plying their trade. Either way this is not a gun forum this is about airsoft, so your opinion is not relevant to the thread in the slightest and if you're not here to debate the subject then there's literally no reason to post it. That's why I stuck to talking about airsoft in my post. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 People can counter as they please. My point is is that the policy is undoubtedly motivated by (American) gun crime rather airsoft or "kids on facebook" or what have you - the statistics were there to illustrate my point. I can't see how that is irrelevant at all. You have made a mountain out of a molehill. Link to post Share on other sites
-Drake- Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 All my experiences with second hand airsoft sales on facebook have followed a strikingly similar formula. Usually I'd post an ad for something pretty high end, then spend the next month telling donuts who lowball because "my mate has one just like it, that he bought for some lint and a scratchcard" to kindly *fruitcage* off. Whats that, your mate has one just like it ? what brand ? Oh a WE ! *fruitcage* off. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 People can counter as they please. My point is is that the policy is undoubtedly motivated by (American) gun crime rather airsoft or "kids on facebook" or what have you - the statistics were there to illustrate my point. I can't see how that is irrelevant at all. You have made a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, I am terribly prone to doing that. If people start to counter that point, that is literally the definition of debating the subject, which as I've said already, this thread is not about. The irony here being what I said originally (to correct Supernanny's rather ill judged assertion) clearly illustrated the point that, as you say, this change was clearly brought about in relation to private ownership of firearms and facebook's feelings/opinions/policies regarding that subject in the US. Certainly not about airsoft, at least in the main part. Difference being I said it in a neutral fashion because I'm not here to point out the arguments for or against, since that topic is not at all what we're here for and indeed, as UK citizens, have literally zero control over or input in to. Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Arnies is still my first port of call for any sales stuff then Zero in as they have the traffic. The FB groups where good from time to time though. I just hate this new wave of censorship and acceptability that socail media is ushering in. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 More do with that some 2,000 have been killed by guns in the US this year so far.. I think what CK meant is to make the same point and be neutral you could have just went with "More to do with the gun control politics in the US."... Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I don't get the fuzz. FB just enforced their rules which we agreed on when registering on FB. That is all. They do not and can not forbid the sale of second hand weapons and replica's. They simply ruled out their system ( facebook) as a medium. Which us their choice. Remember they owe us nothing. FB is free to use and we ALL scroll over the rules instead of reading them when we accepted them. Lets use local fora or arnies gain. Like we used to, and kindly move on? Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Facebook *changed* the rules - 25th of January, I believe - with little notice and no consultation. Which is why people are upset, well as near as I can tell. But yes, it is their website and they can run it how they please. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I don't get the fuzz. FB just enforced their rules which we agreed on when registering on FB. That is all. They do not and can not forbid the sale of second hand weapons and replica's. They simply ruled out their system ( facebook) as a medium. Which us their choice. Remember they owe us nothing. FB is free to use and we ALL scroll over the rules instead of reading them when we accepted them. Lets use local fora or arnies gain. Like we used to, and kindly move on? Don't think anyone said anything to the contrary did they? I'm not closing my account, I think it's a shame for those few who did find it useful for selling firearms and RIFs privately, but I wasn't one of them so it's made no change to me at all. Having made my account about 12 years ago then it's not correct to say ever I accepted a rule regards restricting sales of certain things which are perfectly legal to sell, but then there was no sales system at that point, I'm pretty sure groups didn't exist either. Obviously we all signed to say 'facebook can do what the hell they like' as with every box you check when making an account, not arguing that. I'm not sure loads of people will suddenly come to forums though, I mean there's not been some sudden influx already. Forums have been in decline traffic wise for a good number of years, I'm fairly certain an awful lot of the userbase on the FB groups isn't even aware they exist. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I was not aiming my arrows at you, bud. More a general thing. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I didn't think you were, just continuing the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites
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