Rob15 Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Very very very very very very very very very very nice Link to post Share on other sites
the cleaner Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 btw. .every single gun shown are full metal. .I can't have any stock plastic guns in my collection. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Elitism ftw dude Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Yey cleaner and i are in the hk51 club, my box and manual are long gone though sigh Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 My HK51 needs some serious updating, 'tis my first ever AEG - needs a new stock after the MSG90 one was snapped in half by some *beep* I lent it to What I really need however is a good RIS for it, as I have the cheapest rail system known to man on there at the moment it actually cost less than £8.00, including postage! No idea what would work without any modifications to an MC51 body at all - anyone know of something that would bolt straight on and provide a good amount of strength and rigidity? Link to post Share on other sites
the cleaner Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) Yey cleaner and i are in the hk51 club, my box and manual are long gone though sigh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> luckily. .I saved my HK51 box (as shown in the pic) but lost my manual. Nothing but the motor, outer barrel, sights are original. .I sold my Hk51 handguard and stock (since switched to G3A3 OD hardware).. . My HK51 needs some serious updating, 'tis my first ever AEG - needs a new stock after the MSG90 one was snapped in half by some *beep* I lent it to What I really need however is a good RIS for it, as I have the cheapest rail system known to man on there at the moment it actually cost less than £8.00, including postage! No idea what would work without any modifications to an MC51 body at all - anyone know of something that would bolt straight on and provide a good amount of strength and rigidity? make sure you have the shorter stock buttcap for your HK51. .. ie CA33 or G3A3 buttcap. . NOT SG1 As for off the shelf RIS systems. . CA, Mosquito Molds and G&G all make RIS units for the MC51/HK51. No modification is needed. But the RIS alone will not provide the strength and rigidity you really want. . that all comes from replacing the cocking tube with the CA metal one. A metal cocking tube, metal receiver and RIS will definitely beefen it all up. . if you can still find it in HK shops. .a company called Armour Gallery built a really nice one-piece outer barrel for the MC51 and SG1 length G3s. This barrel connects to the receiver and really stiffens up the entire front end. Edited November 2, 2006 by the cleaner Link to post Share on other sites
casey_cole Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) Just got a CA metal lower receiver for my MC51: Wanted - CA metal upper receiver. CC Edited November 4, 2006 by casey_cole Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I've had a poke around and I can't find the answer anywhere else, so I figure I'll ask here I'm looking into getting me a G3 SBS, obvious place to start seems to be the MC51 (according to a mate...), then get a SD front end, said mate will do the mods to make 'em fit together Anyhow, what I was wondering was, are there any differences between the TM MC51 and the CA Sar Offizier M41 that would stop me using the CA M41 for this? Any insight much appreciated Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Kingmob3 Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Shiny pics, the G3SDRIS is one of the beter gun's now resideing in my collection, The Cleaner does awsome work, trust me. KM Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I've had a poke around and I can't find the answer anywhere else, so I figure I'll ask here I'm looking into getting me a G3 SBS, obvious place to start seems to be the MC51 (according to a mate...), then get a SD front end, said mate will do the mods to make 'em fit together Anyhow, what I was wondering was, are there any differences between the TM MC51 and the CA Sar Offizier M41 that would stop me using the CA M41 for this? Any insight much appreciated Cheers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only thing you may have problems with is that the metal body will be harder to mod than the plastic TM body. Oh, CA do a complete metal SD frontend - that'd be the place to start for a SBS. Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 The only thing you may have problems with is that the metal body will be harder to mod than the plastic TM body. Oh, CA do a complete metal SD frontend - that'd be the place to start for a SBS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's what I thought may be the only issue, Dremel to the rescue methinks! (I couldn't think of any reason why CA would make the M41 any different to a MC51 w/ RIS unit as it eliminates any kind of already available aftermarket parts...) I was also thinking that'd be a good starting point for the front end, on the basis that getting a whole metal body from somewhere could be difficult, so starting with the M41, and getting the CA SD front end, I get the best of both worlds, add in one $15 TM G3 hop unit, and I've got one awesome gun Saying that, I do plan to get a First Factory Silencer Adaptor so I can give it a Tracer Unit (the adaptor covers up what woud be an unsightly gap ) Link to post Share on other sites
the cleaner Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 The major mistake people make when building a MC51 SBS. .they use a MP5 SD front end and leave it as that. . .you really need to do further mods and utilize a G3 cocking handle. . not the MP5 SD cocking handle. Your bolt cover will not open if you use the MP5 handle.. thus, modifying the MP5 SD cocking tube with a G3 handle will allow the functioning of the bolt. little details like that count. Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Ah, I didn't realise there was a difference (I've handled MP5's but never G3's) What kind of mods are required to fit the G3 cocking tube to the SD front end then? Link to post Share on other sites
the cleaner Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ah, I didn't realise there was a difference (I've handled MP5's but never G3's) What kind of mods are required to fit the G3 cocking tube to the SD front end then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're misunderstanding. . . 1) You utilize a CA MP5 SD front end (not G3 cocking tube). 2) you must widen the cocking handle slot on the SD cocking tube so that a G3 handle will fit. 3) you must lengthen the slot on the SD cocking tube to allow the G3 handle to move properly and open the bolt. Link to post Share on other sites
BoB SoiL Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Aah, I see Thanks for clarifying Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Desert G3: (metal body and cocking tube assembly should arrive this week, new pics will follow ) Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Looks nice, looks very nice indeed. The G3 monster is calling me in so many ways.... Link to post Share on other sites
Sunday8PM Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 @Gundrosen Very nice but is it possible to get a battery inside it? Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 @Gundrosen Very nice but is it possible to get a battery inside it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> nah, not with that stock, I keep a full stock in the gun case. The stock in the pic is just for show off (and I will use it when I get a RAS and a PEW box) Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I'm planning on making pretty much the same thing as you, do you think you could fit a stick battery in the cocking tube or foregrip? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I'm planning on making pretty much the same thing as you, do you think you could fit a stick battery in the cocking tube or foregrip? Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. Link to post Share on other sites
Gundrosen Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I'm planning on making pretty much the same thing as you, do you think you could fit a stick battery in the cocking tube or foregrip? Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, but you could always buy a G3 SG1 foregrip(it will fit a small battery) or a RAS with PEQ. I tried to fit a stick type battery in the cocking tube, and with enough dremeling in there you might be able to stick a battery in there. Link to post Share on other sites
Dead2k1 Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 hmmm. the G3 cocking tube is about 3-4 inches long. . . doubt you could get a batt in there.. Mmm You could get a Battery sling. The batt is in a pack on the sling and the wire runs all the way to the gun. My friend has one for his MC51. OR if you realllly wanted. . . you could attatch it to the side of the tube that runs along the upper reciever. in the indent. and drill a hole through the body >< Link to post Share on other sites
crossbow Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Here's a photo of my CA Taktik Rifle II (G3 SG1 Clone). I assume this counts as a G3, as it follows the same design. Scope setup is just temporary, as the weaver rings haven't arrived yet (embedded rings on a rail thats connecting to another rail...crazy high). Link to post Share on other sites
t3hDesertFox Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 New Aimpoint, yay. Link to post Share on other sites
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