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Matt, its likely to be because the BGS hop rubbers form a much better seal. All of the ones I have fitted have had a marked increase in getting them to cock shut. If you get really bothered by it, a new hop housing is about $9 from WGC. One was so tight once, it pulled the nozzle from the bolt and left it in the rubber.

 

M24 (the SWS model I assume) has a fluted barrel and a much heavier stock than the M40. It is far better in my opinion as the M40 stock feels like a VSR one and they are pap, just too damned light and placky. Internally, they are identical.

Which you feel more comfortable with, thats entirely your own choice.

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To debate the above with no criticism to anyone....

 

I opted for an M40a1 for several reasons. First... it's the lightest Tanaka Works rifle, other than the discontinued LTR (40g lighter).

 

The m40a1 is 2740g (working from memory here) while the AICS rifle is 4300g and very similar m700 mechanism. Length is only 5mm difference. Therefore with the £50 difference in price, there was no competition in my mind. I much prefere a thumb over stock, rather than the thumb hole AICS layout. The thumb hole layout, means the AICS has a more vertical pistol grip. It doesn't handle like a traditional rifle and more is like an AR in my experiance of such stock designs.

 

I play games where I have to move long distances, over several days and carrying a heavy rifle is something you avoid at all costs if given a choice. I have to carry all my other kit at some stages too remember. Many players I guess, cover a few hundred meters all day with belt kit only. I think you will find that the military who use the real rifles would also prefere to have lighter kit :P

 

Besides, once you add a bipod, which is the norm these days, plus scope, etc etc even your light rifle gets heavier. Real sniper rifles have heavy fluted barrels for reasons that are not involved in Airsoft guns. Recoil and heat are not problems. Therefore, to me they are redundant and not worth investment. Buying stocks for cosmetics is the wrong mindset to be a successfull bolt action hunter; the idea is not to be seen by anyone. Forgetting that means you have lost the way IMO.

 

OK the heavier stocks (M700P, M24) may have a more durable feel and are made from better composites. I cover my rifles with either cam tape or gun socks. I have had wooden stocks on 6mm rifles before, but don't see the point, when i end up covering it and it gets dinged anyway. Any stock gets the odd ding if you play an extreme game style and buying a cheaper stock means you are less gutted when it gets marked.

 

Movement is the bolt action players key to success (just like TDS said recently) and you should remember that a 4kg+ rifle is a disadvantage when crawling or trying to evade. I know you may disagree but that is my own perspective on the m40a1. Cheapest Tanaka out there but just as good as the others, plus always in stock at every supplier, so easy to get the best deal.

 

Only other rifles I considered was the G33 or LTR; as a shorter barrel has an appeal if you want a silencer too.

 

Each to their own. Buy whichever you want is the bottom line I guess.

 

Good Hunting ;)

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hi guys, i have a problem with my k98k...

 

when i set the hopup, it seems to have the opposite effect to what its supposed to have. basically the more hop i put, the faster the bb seems to go down..

anyone know what the problem might be?

ive only shot it around 200 times

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could be too much hop.

 

I have seen this on an M700... The hop was set on, it went up, then it was set just that bit too much and it curled rapidly downwards, which got worse the more hop that was applied.

 

No idea why.

 

slacken the hop right off and fire a few rounds through it to settle it out. then re-set a small amount at a time.

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slacken the hop right off and fire a few rounds through it to settle it out. then re-set a small amount at a time.

 

if you set the hop too high it'll push the fatter section of the square hop bucking down into the chamber, screwing up accuracy, resetting and firing pushes it back into position.

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On the note of hop up units, does anyone know if there is a performance difference between the new square cut hole in the AICS barrel and the older round cuts when using a best gun hop up bucking? I know your supposed to file the stock round barrels anyways, but I'm going to order a Dees 6.01 and I dont want to file a 75 dollar barrel.......

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ok, thanks the chef, it works great now!

and here come the other 2 problems, hehe:

when using SGM .29, the bolt sometimes refuses to push forwards and load the bb, no matter how hard i push it. ONLY with SGM .29s

now i dont really mind i guess, since there are other good bbs out there, but its rather annoying..

and:not enough hop. with the hop set on full, bbs curve down rapidly as mentioned above. slightly below full, it works wonderfully up to about 100-150ft, then the bb starts to drop. im not sure if this is due to grease on the hop because its relatively new? or is this another real problem that wont go away after shooting a few hundred more shots?

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About the new restriction law, if I was to take a new model AICS to a specialist to get this restriction removed, how much would it cost?

(Dont like DIY)

 

(sorry if you've been through this before, but I cant read 10 pages of airsoft talk i dont understand too well...)

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Sirrith, the hop is very fine on its tuning. when its about there you only need to move it 'one click' at a time to get it right on the button.

 

but then it is still a bit new ish, and they can take some time to bed down.

 

Patience is the key with a tanaka.

 

Rogue. it will take a half decent machine shop about 30 seconds to bore it out.

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UPDATE::

 

Am now running my M700 A.I.C.S. on green gas, and Digicon .36's.

 

It works like a DREAM!! I haven't had time to adjust the hop or the scope, but it's pretty much dead straight, as far as the flight of the BB is concerned.

 

Thanks to Chef and everyone else who helped!!

 

Ben.

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well.... i have no idea how to get started, hahaha, i havnt looked at it properly yet, just shot it, so i dont know where the screws are or which parts need to come off first etc...

but im not going to do it this week, so how about i send you a pm if i need help? :)

thanks!

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