Imperator Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So, what's the capacity of the drum? It's not a hi-cap, right? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 3000 rd electrically powered I seem to recall. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I was planning on buying the gun plus the drum anyways, just trying to figure out what they're thinking. Is this their way of reminding us that a full auto mag-fed shotgun is a poor idea in the real world? The real box mags only hold 8. TM makes a mag that holds 3.75 times that and you're still complaining? Box mags = not so spammy for the milsim crowd. Drum mags = welcome to Spamalot. Choose which one suits your style of play. If it's in between like a real cap drum mag, you'll have to resort to your own inventiveness in modding the two together unless someone like MAG makes them. Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 CQB + DRUM + AA12 = *fruitcage* YOU. That is all. Fear me, and despise me. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Wuts? Real gun only has full auto? Murica! Box mags and drums I very much approve but I just hate those noisy "looks like a regular mag" -hicaps. Sadly double-stacker midcaps are doomed to fail, this would actually be the perfect place for em. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Full auto only because it shoots so slowly that it's very easy to just let go of the trigger for single shots. Since TM shoots twice as fast they reckon people might want a semi auto function. It's hidden between safe and full auto so it doesn't ruin the looks at any rate. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 CQB + DRUM + AA12 = *fruitcage* YOU. That is all. Fear me, and despise me. i believe the true equation is (CQB + DRUM + AA12) DSG = *fruitcage* YOU sadly this will be me = Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 What's all this talk of DSG? What does it mean? Ta Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Siegetek Dual Sector Gear. 2x the gear train on the sector gear, 2x the rof. Link to post Share on other sites
kilo_64 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm more interested in the gearbox design and the type of trigger switch they're using. Just kind of bumm'd that there really isn't much space for a decent battery. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Use a two cell lipo? Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The real box mags only hold 8. TM makes a mag that holds 3.75 times that and you're still complaining? Box mags = not so spammy for the milsim crowd. Drum mags = welcome to Spamalot. Choose which one suits your style of play. If it's in between like a real cap drum mag, you'll have to resort to your own inventiveness in modding the two together unless someone like MAG makes them. Maybe things are different where you play but I can't see many players, mil-sim or not, opting to carry 6+ of those mags over just getting the drum. Considering the poor ammo capacity relative to the bulk of the magazines is one of the primary reasons the real AA-12 has never been adopted by anyone, yeah, I was kind of hoping they'd make a midcap that takes advantage of that enormous magazine size rather than hold less than a STANAG. Link to post Share on other sites
kilo_64 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Use a two cell lipo? stock config yeah. Really hoping there's some reinforcement to the box since I really want to turn this into my new support gun Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Maybe things are different where you play but I can't see many players, mil-sim or not, opting to carry 6+ of those mags over just getting the drum. Plenty of people lug 6+ mags holding 30 rounds all the time in GBBRs and not all of them are even into milsim. Heck, you yourself skirmish with shell ejecting shotguns, a feature commonly associated with collector's items due to impracticality. If anything I could see people wanting the drum mag more just for the aesthetics rather than capacity as that's what the weapon is most commonly depicted with. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The size of the mags are managable. I can see myself having room for at least 8. I'm probably still going to get the drum in case ultimate shinanigans need be had. please note, I'm 6'2" an weigh 240lbs Link to post Share on other sites
Springs Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 i do like the look of this gun. even if i don't use it to play i might just get one for my wall Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Siegetek Dual Sector Gear. 2x the gear train on the sector gear, 2x the rof. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Plenty of people lug 6+ mags holding 30 rounds all the time in GBBRs and not all of them are even into milsim. Heck, you yourself skirmish with shell ejecting shotguns, a feature commonly associated with collector's items due to impracticality. If anything I could see people wanting the drum mag more just for the aesthetics rather than capacity as that's what the weapon is most commonly depicted with.+1 on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Shooting in semi, 30 shots per mag should be enough for what is (for me) a CQB gun. If I was only carrying that I wouldn't mind to have 6 mags on me, as that's why I carry for some other systems. However, as a secondary gun, I'd rather have the drum mag and forget about it Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Just wait for the inevitable MAG midcaps holding twice the capacity of the regular Marui ones. This should be an excellent ambush/ counter ambush gun. Kudos to Marui for the innovation, I know a lot of people have been speculating about an electric tri-shot system for a long while, cool to see it actually done. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The more I read. The more I want to buy one. However for me it will come down the the choice of a TM AA-12 or an RS 12g BR-99. I expect both the same price... Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The question which has kept me airsofting over taking up real steel is: Which one can you get away with shooting at your mates with? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thats exactly what I say on a daily basis haha Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Plenty of people lug 6+ mags holding 30 rounds all the time in GBBRs Believe me, I am not a speedsofter balking at the idea of carrying more than a single hicap. Like you said, I regularly use shell-ejecting shotguns in CQB, and for field I typically carry a machine gun while simultaneously carrying a rifle as backup. But I'm not sure how many here are familiar with how huge and unwieldy shotgun mags are. If your GBBR is using 30rd AR magazines, then your mags are around a third the volume of a single 8rd 12ga magazine for an automatic shotgun. How many folks would be willing to carry 16+ AR mags? I can carry a cluster of six AR mags or fifty or so loose shells in just a SAW gunner's pouch and have a decent combat load, leaving plenty of room for other gear, but when I carry a full load of 12ga Saiga mags it requires a dedicated rig. How to carry enough ammo efficiently is one of the most common questions I see three-gun shooters new to mag-fed shotguns ask. I'm sure there are a fair number of people who will be willing to do it for the sake of milsim. I'm just saying I think most players will opt for the drum over struggling with a faithful replication of one of the main reasons nobody adopted the AA12 in the real world, and since the one mag is pretty useless on its own it seems to me like it'd be more practical to sell the gun with a higher capacity mag and have the 'lowcaps' as an aftermarket option, or just go whole hog and sell it with the drum. Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The size of the mags are managable. I can see myself having room for at least 8. I'm probably still going to get the drum in case ultimate shinanigans need be had. please note, I'm 6'2" an weigh 240lbs Terry Crews 6'4" and 245 lbs Fitting. Link to post Share on other sites
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