OverKiller93 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Here it is Looks really nice. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 It has just one big problem: It's Gas operated, it won't stand up to a decent skirmish, yes blowback is nice but its just not really skirmish worthy and to spend that much on something that wont be much use in a game for myself is daft to be honest. Oh yeah and it's another Armalite, boo. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 ^ That is amazing reasoning and something I haven't heard before at all!!! When was Western Arms products ever used for skirmishes? Link to post Share on other sites
transist Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 FFS, we've already had about 20 pages of the same. Yes, we know. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 It's Gas operated, it won't stand up to a decent skirmish, yes blowback is nice but its just not really skirmish worthy and to spend that much on something that wont be much use in a game for myself is daft to be honest. You mean its no use in a skirmish unless you're able to use some skill and change you're tactics to make good use of the gun, a bit like people who play pistols only agains't AEGs at the local woodland with great success.... ....Unless its cold, then you're screwed Link to post Share on other sites
yubbermax Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 According to people who OWN the gun, it is accurate with a longer inner barrel. I'm not sure the length on this as they might have cut it hort of the full outer barrel length. Link to post Share on other sites
JCYC5 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 It has just one big problem: It's Gas operated, it won't stand up to a decent skirmish, yes blowback is nice but its just not really skirmish worthy and to spend that much on something that wont be much use in a game for myself is daft to be honest. Oh yeah and it's another Armalite, boo. 'FireKnife' It's more accurate than most AEGs out of the box, much more realistic in terms of operation and mag capacity than AEGs. It can hold it own and then some in "decent skirmishes" and I would take it over an AEG any day. Milsim is more important to some than others, and I can certainly see how the WA M4 holds no appeal for the average airsofter running around with hi-caps. But for those who like milsim like me, it's a beautiful and practical weapon. At least for summer ^ That is amazing reasoning and something I haven't heard before at all!!! When was Western Arms products ever used for skirmishes? Many WA pistols can be seen in holsters of geardos like myself for skirmishes. With a slight bit of investment, they are amongst the most reliable airsoft weapons around. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I just got done converting my WA CQB-R into a WA M4A1 with the addition of the G&P M4A1 and it truly looks bad-*albatross* now. I'm really glad I went with the CQBR and converted it into the M4A1 instead of spending more and going with the WA M4A1. Because in the end, I would have swapped out the WA front end for the G&P aftermarket M4A1 front end. As for accuracy, even without a tightbore my WA M4A1 is more accurate than my AEGs. Link to post Share on other sites
liquidflorian Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 A friend has one and the only thing he has said that would keep it out of a gun fight is the cost of the magazines. Hopefully some after market Magazines will help fill this gap and bring down the cost. Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 A friend has one and the only thing he has said that would keep it out of a gun fight is the cost of the magazines. Hopefully some after market Magazines will help fill this gap and bring down the cost. Ok....I'm 99% sure well never see after market magazines. To my knowledge they were never made for the pistols, so I seriously doubt they'll be made for this. Link to post Share on other sites
vtb Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 2 poison123 Or the china magz will have so much cut-offs (as KJW mags for their clone of WA Magna-R 1911) then they'll be useless. Think, though it's hard to say, we'll need to hold our breath and buy WA mags.... 12 pieces... flick.... PS Heard about the guy who ordered LA Studio M4A1 with 12 mags, payed for it and still wainting for them....and during this waitning he was given to shoot WA.... That's hurt! Link to post Share on other sites
Moriquende Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 ^ That is amazing reasoning and something I haven't heard before at all!!! When was Western Arms products ever used for skirmishes? Since the dawn of airsoft? Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 A friend has one and the only thing he has said that would keep it out of a gun fight is the cost of the magazines. Hopefully some after market Magazines will help fill this gap and bring down the cost. Well said. Thats the only reason why i havent ordered one yet. Magazines are something that i beat the everloving ###### out of. Its one of the reasons why i ditched the PTW. Having 1200 dollars in magazines alone strapped to my chest is not something im looking forward to doing. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 The mags for the WA can't be compared to normal AEG mags though....considering they have a two fold purpose, one is to hold bbs, the other is to act as the units main power source..... Link to post Share on other sites
dhptuning Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi I've just bought a wa m4 cqb . i've owned just about every make of airsoft gun available and i have to say that if you are a bit of a purist and or a real firearm shooter like myself then there is nothing like this rifle . It's a mil sim enthusiasts dream. although airsoft armouries are expensive there are other traders stocking these. I buy all my gear from elite shooting centre Burnley and Mike is selling these for £462.00 and has spare mags in stock. I will be using this weapon for skirmishing when doing cqb so large amounts of ammo is not an issue most games i'll be unlucky if i use a hundred rounds. if I'm doing normal skirmishing i'll use one of my aeg's As an realistic training or mil sim weapon i think it' better than a systema ptw and cheaper. my gun with included mag plus five spare will owe me less than £800.00 . I think both the systema and the wa are fantastic but aimed at slightly different markets. I will be writing a full an honest reveiw in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites
Bangla_Black Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 i've owned just about every make of airsoft gun available Pics or it doesn't happen Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 As for accuracy, even without a tightbore my WA M4A1 is more accurate than my AEGs. Pics, groups, or didn't happen! Seriously, a SPR/Mk12 or SR25 (con)version would be very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
thefallacy Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 just seen the video for this (am a little behind) looks like such fun! but as mentioned before not the most practical for skirms.. i'd buy it to collect if i had the dosh tho Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Pics, groups, or didn't happen! Seriously, a SPR/Mk12 or SR25 (con)version would be very interesting. The bolt would need to travel further though, so I don't think it could happen if there was large-scale interest in it anyhow. Plus a mag would probably cost $200. Link to post Share on other sites
dhptuning Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Pics or it doesn't happen What does pics or it doesn't happen mean? are you the review controller? I will take pictures but don't understand the reply Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 The bolt would need to travel further though Not with the SPR/Mk12. Link to post Share on other sites
michaelmike Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 You mean its no use in a skirmish unless you're able to use some skill and change you're tactics to make good use of the gun, a bit like people who play pistols only agains't AEGs at the local woodland with great success.... ....Unless its cold, then you're screwed HA HA! Well put, man, skirmish is not necessarily equals hi-cap+full auto+12vbatt+auto-winding-box-mag, let the kids know that there are people who can move, shoot, communicate and only use low-cap, rely on semi, accurate fire and still kick *albatross*! WA M4 in the warmer days, why not? Link to post Share on other sites
Wupjak Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 What does pics or it doesn't happen mean? are you the review controller? I will take pictures but don't understand the reply Don't worry about it, dhp, that's what passes for wit around here. Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Am hurt and distraught Wupjack! What does pics or it doesn't happen mean? are you the review controller? I will take pictures but don't understand the reply Basically it is a demand of pictures to back up your statement of having every gun ever, in a humourus, if slightly repeatative manner. Link to post Share on other sites
Wupjak Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Sarcasm didn't translate via text, as usual. Don't take it personally. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
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