DarkLite Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Steel and wood. All of it. The reciever is stamped steel, same as the real pahpahshah, and it's blued. Solid wood stock - you can fit an 11.1v lipo in there, I suspect it'll also fit a mini nimh. Selector for semi and full. Rear sight has two positions, a la real one. An optional leather sling. Link. Price is set tenatively at about $295USD with shipping included. I know the AGM claims to be on it's way - but I haven't seen any solid proof of it existing outside of CAD drawings at all. I'd imagine Frontiers can give some more information on that, but my contacts in china tell me that AGM's boss, manager and chief engineer are still in jail, so it seems unlikely. The drum mag is a hicap, included with the gun, hand wound - a motor-wound version is being made too. The Internals are apparently a TM Ver 7 GB mated to a G36 hop-up unit, which should give good performance and range. I've asked about the possibility of stick-style midcaps for it, and HP are thinking about it. I'll be doing a review when I get back to HK hopefully, so fingers crossed and such. Link to post Share on other sites
apmaman Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Now thats pretty cool Link to post Share on other sites
ACOG Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 3 PahPahShah's in one week. Did someone make another WW2 movie? Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 What The Funk Batman? Seriously though, why PPsh-41 mania all of a sudden? Not that I'm complaining, please let there be stick type midcaps, 'twould be awesome Link to post Share on other sites
The General Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Any make thats not AGM!!!!! This looks nice! I would much rather the choice that just the Ares or AGM. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 this does look mighty tasty. Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Who are HP? Link to post Share on other sites
Punkypink Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 The reason everyone suddenly comes out with a PPsh is probably because the design is shared or "shared" amongst various chinese brands(heck they're probably manufactured in the same factory just put into different boxes). Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Pepper 6pk Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I are confused? This ISNT the AGM right? Link to post Share on other sites
Punkypink Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 No this seems to be a brand called HP. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hexagon Productions. Its right there in the link Darklite left... Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I know the AGM claims to be on it's way - but I haven't seen any solid proof of it existing outside of CAD drawings at all. I'd imagine Frontiers can give some more information on that, but my contacts in china tell me that AGM's boss, manager and chief engineer are still in jail, so it seems unlikely. AGM Boss is out on bail, but if you would know AGM you would know who the real boss is and running the factory and that is not the guy (on charge ) and they are working on that right now, so plenty of PPSH-41's coming i guess HP got it first, ARES could be next but AGM is coming also in the next few months as they just started their project. Interesting since i thought HP only makes parts, didnt know they are into guns also. Link to post Share on other sites
counterassasin Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Lookin' real good! I guess my choice comes down to which manufacturer that decides to make stick type mid-caps. Link to post Share on other sites
1st_shooter Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 But this need to have an UBER muzzle flash going in all directions for me to want it. Link to post Share on other sites
Beast06 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 A GBB version would be sex.... Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 AGM Boss is out on bail, but if you would know AGM you would know who the real boss is and running the factory and that is not the guy (on charge ) and they are working on that right now, so plenty of PPSH-41's coming i guess HP got it first, ARES could be next but AGM is coming also in the next few months as they just started their project. Interesting since i thought HP only makes parts, didnt know they are into guns also. I've known that HP were making a PPSH for about a year now - I saw the very first prototypes when I was in HK on holiday. HP also made the Galil conversion kits that are on Gunner-Airsoft - they would have been sold as full AEGs, but Cybergun got pissy. HP stuff is generally pretty damn good quality - they're based in HK so their QC is a sight better than most ACM manufacturers. Plus they actually design their own stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Really excellent stuff, not only is it a unique (at the moment!) gun but its also a really postive sign that chinese companies are designed orginal, high quality stuff. Don't get me wrong there is defiantly a market for cheap clones, but I think this is a really good thing. Can't say I'd buy one myself (maybe when I have some money...) but yeah, top banana. The stuff about PKM is cool, if they could get it around the price mark of the ARES m60 then they'd be onto a winner! Fingers crossed this is the start of some nice russian stuff, VSS would be cool Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Really excellent stuff, not only is it a unique (at the moment!) gun but its also a really postive sign that chinese companies are designed orginal, high quality stuff. Don't get me wrong there is defiantly a market for cheap clones, but I think this is a really good thing. Can't say I'd buy one myself (maybe when I have some money...) but yeah, top banana. The stuff about PKM is cool, if they could get it around the price mark of the ARES m60 then they'd be onto a winner! Fingers crossed this is the start of some nice russian stuff, VSS would be cool Completely agree with this. Especially the last bit, there. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
Maekl Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hope they will make a suomi m/31 too, it's 10 times better than a ppsh-41 IRL which is a "copy" of m/31. Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Nice. This is going to be a good competitor against ARES and AGM, considering the quality. I also bet the $295 price mark will also be less after wholesale release. I wonder which one'll be the best buy... -T.S. Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hope they will make a suomi m/31 too, it's 10 times better than a ppsh-41 IRL which is a "copy" of m/31. You guys don't need any since you can probably use the real one, you Finnish guys are so hard even the Russians are scared! Link to post Share on other sites
fossilfuel Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 AGM Boss is out on bail, but if you would know AGM you would know who the real boss is and running the factory and that is not the guy (on charge ) and they are working on that right now, so plenty of PPSH-41's coming i guess HP got it first, ARES could be next but AGM is coming also in the next few months as they just started their project. Interesting since i thought HP only makes parts, didnt know they are into guns also. Oooh ARES, I think I'd rather burn my money -it would be more productive! Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Blue Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 V7 Gearbox... hmmm Someone should make a GBB one indeed... Escort-ized PPSH anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Put simply, that thing is beautiful. As others have say, stick style mid-caps would be awesome at some stage though for the moment, a high cap drum is just fine! Hmm, I might be horribly poor soon... Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Competition is good always, for us consumers anyways haha, AGM version is privately funded (its not AGM started project) but someone from the outside (i know who but cannot post it here) someone funded that project to make it. It don't matter anyways who is the name ordering it as its 100% is coming! and not that far away either. I think personally ARES will be the loser on this race but we'll see never know who surprises on this round. Link to post Share on other sites
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