Guinness Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Just noticed that Keith has updated the store with a lot of new products- One of them being a clone of the Marushin M500 Mossberg! Available for pre-order, no price indicated yet. http://www.rsov.com/ ...so yes, it will be 8mm (Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin! ) Also new on RSOV today: -DBoy's AKSU now with wood furniture! -New replica MICH helmets -CYMA M14 RAS frotnend That shottie will be mine! (And so will a can of Krylon flat black apparently ) Ohandyeah...Thanks for being hyped as 'discovering' America there Columbus! Give's me a day off to surf the Airsoft interwebs! Slainte! -G Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Has RSOV lifted its "OMG England have fallen off the airsoft world map" ban yet? Link to post Share on other sites
BakaBox Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Why didn't they clone a "normal" looking m500, instead of a chrome one with ugly sights? Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 hot diggity damn! please oh please be below the $150 mark... Link to post Share on other sites
LockandLoad Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Wicked, lets hope we will be able to import these ok if/when they lift there ban. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Why didn't they clone a "normal" looking m500, instead of a chrome one with ugly sights? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The sights at least are stock- take a look at the Marushin. And interestingly enough, the stainless finish is exactly how we saw the Maru in early pre-release leaked photos if I'm not mistaken....... Leading this reporter to wonder if there is some collusion between Japan and China...."pssst hey...here is our R&D piece...and our cad-drawings....you guys wait about 3 months, and then release! ) Nah.......that's too cynical even for me Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 i want in on this. wish it was black though. Link to post Share on other sites
BakaBox Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 The sights at least are stock- take a look at the Marushin. And interestingly enough, the stainless finish is exactly how we saw the Maru in early pre-release leaked photos if I'm not mistaken....... Leading this reporter to wonder if there is some collusion between Japan and China...."pssst hey...here is our R&D piece...and our cad-drawings....you guys wait about 3 months, and then release! ) Nah.......that's too cynical even for me <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They have cloned this. Should've cloned this. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I don't care- el cheapo gas shotgun? yes please, I'll take two! sights can always be changed, be the inherent glory of an el cheapo gas shotty will remain... Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 They have cloned this. Should've cloned this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well yeah..but.... ...that hasn't been made in years has it..... However, I'm with ya BakaBox, I was thinking about that vented shroud myself (BTW, what the heck is a 'BakaBox' anyhow? ) I mean you would think that Chinese Airsoft manufacturers are all stricken with short-term memory loss because all of thier products seemingly follow the fickle whims of 'whats being produced now' Shoot, there are a ton of guns I 'wish' they would make- GreaseGun MP44 My cynical conspiracy-theory side says the Chinese Airsoft Industry fairly runs off whatever CAD drawings they can beg, borrow or steal from Japanese mfgs Link to post Share on other sites
blue_5 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Want. Very badly. Now. I would take off the sights, add a sawn off grip, and then quite possible run off to Vegas and marry it in a quickie ceremony. Just as soon as I work out what 'Pump Cation' entails. Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 As cool as they are (albeit pretty ugly scheme they used) 8MM shotguns just aren't that practical, especially in woodland. If they would re-release the old 6mm marushin shotguns with the 140 or so BB capacity it would sell like hotcakes. I think that was probably the best shotgun design so far. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 dunno about not practical- perhaps as a primary it might get limited, but used in conjunction with other guns like pistols/smgs, or as a back up to a carbine, I can see them having a very worthy place in woodland. me, I think I may have to get geared up for the Billygun project, now I can actually afford the blummin' thing! Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hope they improved the gas system. The marushin gas system keeps blowing O-rings because it was not designed for Green gas/propane. When it worked on propane, it shot the 3X0.34g 8mm BBs out at 300fps, thats a total of 5.1J total output, making it a very field skirmishable shotgun. Fingers crossed that it will work on propane. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 As cool as they are (albeit pretty ugly scheme they used) 8MM shotguns just aren't that practical, especially in woodland. If they would re-release the old 6mm marushin shotguns with the 140 or so BB capacity it would sell like hotcakes. I think that was probably the best shotgun design so far. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yipeee! Our first 'wailer and gnasher of teeth' ! Maybe you could explain for us using charts and graphs where this 'factoid' comes from?- What exactly happens in that extra 2mm's of bb that ruins velocity, trajectory, inertia, or whatever the science may be behind these statements because I hear them, but I never hear the evidence behind them? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 frankly, I've no problem with 8mm bbs- used to own an 8mm m1 carbine, and it was pretty spectacular as a mid-range marksman rifle. sure, the added weight/size of the bb may have lowered the potential distance, but it also may contribute towards its stability in the air. Dunno. I'm no scientist, but it worked fine, and I've seen the effective range of an 8mm m500 before, and it was more than satisfactory. only real issue is that 8mm bbs are more pricey, but its not like you're using them in an aeg now, is it? Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Yeah, I was going to add back to my last post that I could understand the price angle- I still don't get the whole '8mm am bad' hype though based on anything but price- I think I have seen some kind of calculation elsewhere that suggests the additional weight and size actually help keep 8mm bbs in the air longer and farther like you mention Harry- I'm hoping someone can settle this once and for all I know I'm probably about to commit Airsoft heresy but let's consider the .68 cal paintball projectile- The mechanism of a paintball marker is somewhat analogous to a AEG- yet they hurl those cannonballs far and wide to great effect, yes? Here, we are talking the difference in 2 measly millimeters yet to hear so many talk, 6mm = win and God , 8mm = lose and sad So please, edu-macate meh Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Darklite saw the Chinese 8mm BBs. They look pretty decent, so unless they assplode into confetti when being fired, that weird smell around Marushin is their slowly burning pants. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan74 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Thank you! As said, the chrome is nothing a little flay black krylon can't fix. And personally, I like the ghost ring sights Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 as I say, its a cheap full metal gas shotgun. I couldn't care less if they'd bolted a Barbie doll onto it, I'd still buy it. Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Guinness: Do keep in mind that a typical marker fires around 14 joules IIRC, and part of the safety is the size of the projectile and the fact that it breaks upon impact. Personally I'd be willing to let 8 mm users have higher energy limits, because it would still be just as safe - although the safe energy limit would have to be defined. That would make them more effective in the field. To be honest at the moment I think they are too heavy, so shot at 1 joules they will be way too slow. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 They have cloned this. Should've cloned this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would've preferred the "cruiser" grip most of all, but to see they're starting to clone something besides AEGs is enough to warrant my celebration. Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Sasaki Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 vented shroud <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Barrel shroud? Isn't that the shoulder thing that goes up? Looks just lovely, though. I might end up buying myself one of these. Link to post Share on other sites
Pinkfloyd Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 [Ohandyeah...Thanks for being hyped as 'discovering' America there Columbus! Give's me a day off to surf the Airsoft interwebs! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I still had classes... damn Austria... they don't give the American holidays I'm so accustomed to... And Columbus didn't discover America. That's factually inaccurate, and I don't know why people still hang on to that rumor... Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Guinness: Do keep in mind that a typical marker fires around 14 joules IIRC, and part of the safety is the size of the projectile and the fact that it breaks upon impact. Personally I'd be willing to let 8 mm users have higher energy limits, because it would still be just as safe - although the safe energy limit would have to be defined. That would make them more effective in the field. To be honest at the moment I think they are too heavy, so shot at 1 joules they will be way too slow. -Sale <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you Sir- Info backed up with facts, logic, reason and a helpful attitude as usual! -G Link to post Share on other sites
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