FarEast Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Well guys this one is pretty amazing, ICS really have listened and not only will they release the L85A2 with an intended release date of Feb. But they have just announced to me that they will also release the L86 LSW. Not only that but the front end will be released as a seperate kit for those owning the L85 and want to switch it over to the L86. Anyway, here she is! Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Well. Damn. Link to post Share on other sites
damage552 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nice alternative to the pricey STAR version. Was the STAR ever any good anyway? Bring out the SG55x's ICS! Link to post Share on other sites
lmission Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 i will probably clean out my savings buying ICS weaponry. oh well....i got the bug and i can't get rid of it. thank you ICS for potentially ruining my life. when did you say the L85 will be out? can hardly wait. Link to post Share on other sites
ieatdirt Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Is it too late to make sure the bipod works properly? I had cash in my hand to buy a star and the bipod was so wrong I didn't bother. On the real deal there is a little sliding lock to hold the legs in the stowed position (where the white thing is on the ICS picture) and when the bipod legs deploy they lock out so that you can lean your weight forward onto the bipod. On the Star one they just fold. You have to close the legs together before they can fold back up under the barrel on the real deal. If you want I can do a drawing of the mechanism. Can you ask them for me, it is a big issue. Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 looks like ICS has the right idea. Now if theyd just make a SL8...though i probably couldnt afford it after i get their galil and the L85 ought to be out this month...or at the latest next month Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 D: darn it FarEast all my money is in a certificate of deposit and youre taunting me with so many awesome products. Cant wait for this, oh yea :3 Link to post Share on other sites
48thRonin Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Cool and the gang! Cant wait to see this out to get hands on Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I suppose i have to ask,are they intending to make a SUSAT now or at any time soon?A red dot would be a money maker with all the Army R85s knocking about. RT Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 If its cheaper than the Star then I might have to have one! Link to post Share on other sites
random guy Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 oh sweet do you recon the front end will fit the r85 because if it does this is most definatley on my wishlist along with a susat if they make one, which would be a big money maker if it is cheaper than the star offering. Link to post Share on other sites
FireHawk102 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Wow, wow and WOW! hot-swappable front end to the LSW? What? ICS never cease to amaze me - fantastic! I guess that's quite a big kit, new foregrip, outer barrel, inner barrel, heat shield, bi-pod (nice one amateur stuntman, good advice), and new butt plate, and grip? Awesome thanks again Far East - I look at the Arnies news page at least twice a day for these ICS developments! Have you posted the pictures of the L85 A2 from their website? http://www.icsbb.com/eicsbb/page3.asp?bignum=8&picid=792 Personally I would like the Susat with the same internals as the real steel, with glowing tip reticle - but perhaps there can be two options; X4 magnification and no magnification. Please don't make a red dot as such as I like the Susat's reticle. thanks ICS and Far East - I can't wait! Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hold on, nowhere does it mention that its hot-swappable. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Mmmmmm.... This just climbed into top-3 of my 'next complete gun' list. If it's more affordable than the STAR, then it's a winner almost straight off. Any idea on the timeframe? Link to post Share on other sites
Shinden Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hey FarEast! Current models of the L85 from G&G/ARMY does not accept the SUSAT scope, however does ICS intend to to have thier carry handle removable to use a real SUSAT scope? The problem with dimensions of the reciever proved to be problem that did not allow scopes to be mounted. And by far this will have a metal gearbox of course, however would it be the most game-friendly AEG? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think the scope mount was one of the things mentioned to ICS when they first asked for comment on their design a few months back. I'm pretty sure I remember reading that they've since made accomodation for different types of scope. Link to post Share on other sites
resz Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I want one. hard. Dammit i got my m14 on the way, then i was torn between a CA CQB and a VFC SCAR and now theres this! Link to post Share on other sites
Lorenzo76 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 hey guys ! Do anyone notice on the top of the bullpup L86, an another airsoft replica or everyone is blind ? Well, it looks like an airsoft replica of ........the IMI GALIL AR/ARM. So if ICS is going to produce it for a reasonnable price, well i think i'm gonna try ! Lorenzo. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I thought a Galil was seen in the thread FarEast made of 'tantalizing' stuff seen at ICS for possible 2008 daylight? Link to post Share on other sites
resz Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Pretty sure the galil was already mentioned on one of the threads Link to post Share on other sites
FireHawk102 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Just interested in the L86 at the mo! Angry, I consider motors, gearboxes, scopes hot swappable on my M4, I'm guessing the L86 kit be a piece of cake to fit ICS - I mentioned a while ago on the L85 thread about the cocking handle - are you making it so it goes all the way back and locks like the real steel? That would be a nice touch as all the other makes only slide back half way, and to me that makes it feel like a toy! Scott Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Oh right, well in that case you seem to have a different definition of hot-swappable to most people then Link to post Share on other sites
Abelius Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 To think how easily they could make an RK62 or RK95 based on the work they have done with the Galil. Makes me feel warm inside. Please ICS? I would buy one from you instead of G&G, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hey FarEast! Current models of the L85 from G&G/ARMY does not accept the SUSAT scope, however does ICS intend to to have thier carry handle removable to use a real SUSAT scope? The problem with dimensions of the reciever proved to be problem that did not allow scopes to be mounted. Eh? What? The G&G/AA rail is simply a fraction of a mm too wide to allow the Star SUSAT to fit. All you need to do is file the edges of the rail slightly and it goes on perfectly. On topic, I hope ICS aren't disappointed by sales of these items. Airsofters are often (to be blunt) full of sh*t about what they will and won't buy. They flap their jaws about wanting a reliable, high-quality gun with lots of clever innovations but, when it comes right down to it, they tend to go for the cheaper option or, more likely, simply not actually BUY anything at all. I continually read of people saying how they're definitely going to but this or that but, when it comes down to it, most airsofters can't or don't buy half the things they say they will. If you look at a community such as Arnies there's a couple of thousand active accounts. Of these members I'd say, in all honesty, less than a hundred of us are adults who make our own spending decisions. What's the point in 500 14 year olds raving about how cool an L86 is? At best they're representative of a demographic who're going to ask their parents to buy them one for xmas. ICS then have to hope their parents buy the item AND hope that nothing cooler comes out between now and then, given that children can be rather fickle about what they want. ICS missed the boat on the L85 by over a year. IMO, their L85 doesn't need to simply be the best L85 out there. It needs to be a truly outstanding AEG in every respect. Ideally it needs to do something that will cause people to buy it and begin to use it as their number-one gun. In my experience, EVERYBODY who owns an L85 has it as a "niche" gun. They bought one (Star, G&G, AA) simply because they liked the idea of owning an L85. I don't think I've ever met anybody who plays with an L85 all day every day. Because of this "niche" market for the L85, most people are probably going to be happy buying an AA gun and hoping they can sort out the faults. For the ICS L85 to do well it's going to have to be good enough that people who don't want an L85, people who just want a damned good primary AEG, are going to buy it instead of the latest VFC, G&P or whatever else. I hope they understand what they're doing because, as I said, much as I've seen numerous people saying they want an L86, I can see ICS selling less than a handful of these in the UK. It's not ICS's fault, or the guns fault. The problem is simply that airsofters aren't honest about their buying intentions. Finally, from a practical POV, what's the attraction of a support weapon that can only fire from a hicap? It's not like it has any of the DMR advantages that the real L86 offers. Link to post Share on other sites
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