dobey Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 The Real Steel: From http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn15-e.htm Walther WA-2000 sniper rifle had been developed by Carl Walther Waffenfabrik (Germany) during late 1970s and early 1980s as a highly specialized police sniper rifle. First introduced in 1982, it was later adopted by some specialized police units in Germany, but the rifle was too expensive to achieve widespread sales, and production was fairy limited. It is believed that only about 176 WA-2000 rifles were ever made. Unlike many other sniper rifles of that period, WA-2000 was not a conversion of the sporting or hunting rifle, but entirely new design with some remarkable features. A couple of notes before I begin. 1 I know Candyman has made this before, I am making this gun as a special request on a high budget, and to the customers specifications. I have seen how Candyman did his, and out of respect for his work I am doing this build looking only at the real steel pictures and not mindlessly copying his work. I am using a GBB pistol as the base gun, as he did and any similarity to his build will be because I am building an airsoft replica of the same gun he did. 2 I am mid project on another build (the BAGeL) and don't like to do two things at once, but I want to have the WA 2000 done before Christmas for the customer. I will be going right back to the BAGeL when this is finished. With that out of the way. The base gun for the WA 2000 will be a Wilson Combat GBB pistol with 2 15 round magazines. The body will be all aluminum, and the barrel will be a custom made solid aluminum fluted barrel. Some of the parts are modeled here: The metal should be here tomorrow. The stock is being made from a solid piece of Curly Walnut that has been air dried for 6 years. I will update as I go, this build should go fast so stay tuned. Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 That's crazy, I just got one of those pistols and the idea of it transforming into a rifle is out there! Link to post Share on other sites
sturgis Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 good luck with the build! I assume you will be making use of CNC/lathes/the likes , considering your deadline? Looking forward to further pictures Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 good luck with the build! I assume you will be making use of CNC/lathes/the likes , considering your deadline? Looking forward to further pictures looking nice and cant wait for updates but please finish your BAGeL or post the updates on it Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 i would have thought a desert eagle would have made a better base gun. slide travels further (as would the WA200's bolt) good luck for the project. interesting to see how this turn out against candyman's effort. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Interesting. I also want to see how this stacks against Candyman's (amazing) replica. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 slide travels further I would say WA M4. Seriously, with what Dobey can do with a CNC, all he needs is the bolt, a magazine and the ignition parts, most of which are already available as aftermarket parts. Dobey: Are you specifically doing that version of the WA2000 in the pic to be different from Candymans or is it just the customers fancy? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 what about the buffer tube. i might be wrong, but doesnt it actually function on the WA? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 It only holds a spring really. Since its bullpup, you could either position the spring in front (and slightly above) of the bolt as an extension spring rather than a compression one. Same goes for rs. I've seen M4 brands with the recoil spring put directly above it where the carry handle goes. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 The metal showed up today around noon so I got to work on the side plates first. Here is some of the metal and the frame of the Wilson: First I cut a few chunks down to working size: I milled a few edges off: Drilled a few holes: Then milled the slots for the cocking handles, and the grooves above the slots: Then I chopped a few more slabs up for the side covers in the bolt area: Some milling and drilling later: Six major pieces and 18 screws later: Gonna grab some dinner and dive right back into it in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites
Docv400 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Doesn't take long with all the required tooling readily to hand does it Looking forward to seeing the rest materialise EDIT;P.S. Where/what are you getting your measurements/dimensions from? Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFoxRomel Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Looks good. I can imagine inside of that shell that you have a lot of room for the blowback mech, so instead of butchering a perfectly good 1911, how about you use it for measurements and machine all steel/ aluminum parts for a GBB mech and magazine, so the said 1911 will serve the user as a side arm. What might be worth looking into is the bolt, hop up, barrel, and magazine of the KWC Mini Uzi, which uses a blocky heavy bolt and uses the barrel nut to adjust the hop up, which might be placed over the thumb hole like the real steel *btw what is the use of that knob in the RS version?*. IIRC, you can just order the parts direct from KWC. For the magazine, I guess you can cut the top off a regular one and machine a aluminum shell to be the gas reservoir and outer shell. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 wow, you work fast dobey. looking good. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I took a side view shot of the real gun and imported the image in my cad software. I know the length of the gun from the spec sheet in the owners manual so I just scaled the pic so the length matched. After that I can just draw a part over the top of the picture and then measure that drawing to get pretty accurate dimensions of most things. After that I made the 3d model from the known pieces and can extrapolate most of the other dimensions from that. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I took a side view shot of the real gun and imported the image in my cad software. I know the length of the gun from the spec sheet in the owners manual so I just scaled the pic so the length matched. After that I can just draw a part over the top of the picture and then measure that drawing to get pretty accurate dimensions of most things. After that I made the 3d model from the known pieces and can extrapolate most of the other dimensions from that. Looks awesome BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAGeL please Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I will get right back on the BAGeL when this is done. As another note on scaling you can take a side shot, crop it to the length of the gun, scale the image to the real length, then lay a grid over it. In this pic I did an asahi with a 1 inch grid overlay, and keep it handy in the shop for quick reference. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Some shots of the end cap before lunch. Cut a block to size: Milled out the ends to fit over the top and bottom rails: Drilled the ends for the screws: Here it is mounted up, still needs the hole for the barrel drilled and some cleaning up: More later. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I did some work on the scope mount base this afternoon. The starting block: A little milling later: A couple holes to mount it: And here it is on the body: Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Wow, looking really good really quickly. You mentioned this being done for a customer on a high budget. If you don't mind me asking, about how high? Also, why did you choose to use a WA instead of a TM? I would have thought the BB system Marui uses would be better for adding several inches to the barrel, as well as the hop being better. Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 If I'm not mistaken the GBB base is a WE (at lest before it got re branded). This would mean that the hop-up is a TM clone but that the mags are only 15 rounds. ___________ While I'm posting I have to say that I love watching these build threads and really appriciate that you take the time to share your projects with us. Link to post Share on other sites
thatoneguy92088 Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 This is sweet. Keep us updated. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I didn't do allot this weekend but I started tinkering with the bipod. Here I marked out the part on a block of aluminum: A quick cutout on the bandsaw: Then mill it down to its final shape: I then added a slot for the rocker: Went over to the lathe to make a couple knobs: Drilled some holes, made some pins, and clipped some springs for the next part: And here is the assembly: I will get back to serious work in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Just a quick update on the progress: Link to post Share on other sites
thatoneguy92088 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Man this is really coming along. Only six days and its already looking great. Link to post Share on other sites
dobey Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Here are some shots of the first part of the butt plate: Link to post Share on other sites
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