WhiteHawksan Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I', gonna have to put a couple of .45 ACP in the back of l;abrynths head on this one, you simply CANNOT state Tanaka is better until this new rifle actually comes out. There have been plenty of surprises, for instance the JG AUG stock better than TM or CA at a fraction of the price, or a certain browning hi-power.. that was just pants. It is always best to reserve judgement on a weapon until you get your hands on it and fire it. Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I feel your sentiments WhiteHawksan, however you must be new to Arnies. We do airsofting.....Differently. [edit] In fact, Labyrinth is our Star pupil no less! Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 If that PPK (or PP or PPK/S as it looks) isn't a GBB i will personally fly to Japan and punch the head guy at R&D really hard, after having ranted at him about why the PPK was made as a NBB / EBB / Springer (delete as appropriate). It just seems to good especially as i have a hankering to get one and i wasn't impressed by the one Maruzen made. Also want the 5-7 as i just think it would be great for my RE4 kit for indoors. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 If that PPK (or PP or PPK/S as it looks) isn't a GBB i will personally fly to Japan and punch the head guy at R&D really hard, after having ranted at him about why the PPK was made as a NBB / EBB / Springer (delete as appropriate). It just seems to good especially as i have a hankering to get one and i wasn't impressed by the one Maruzen made. Also want the 5-7 as i just think it would be great for my RE4 kit for indoors. 'FireKnife' yeah, i'd be sriously disapointed i it ends up NBB, spring or EBB. the P99 did after all. if it is, i might have to join you to knock some sense into the guyt who thought up the idea and on the RE4 topic, PLEASE make a GBB C96 TM! (or anyone in fact) Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Quite like the ppk, hopefully gbb and I'll just keep it stock. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 @spedz lol partly true, nto been bothered t post for a while but something must of interested me enough to post, but I'm from the specualte wildly about what a gun is before anythings released *spies clip of magwell mould line* could be a fake mag! maybe its... xD I jsut never judge how good a weapon actually is till someone actually fires the thing lol Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Well, I see Tanakas everywhere with VSR hopup kits, VSR comp. barrels, power bolts, strike plates, and external rigs to boost their cr*ppy internal gas system... And they're still not as consistent, accurate, and reliable as the bone stock 300fps VSR. Tanakas surely have the "price tag" and "number of extra parts required to make'em skirmishworthy" superiority! I've skirmished with stock Tanaka's for years at 500 FPS... Don't see many stock VSRs on the field - and look how much they are to upgrade/how many parts they need Also, Spedz, I don't get it, but it was probably sarcastic and mean And I didn't comment on the performance on the new rifle. Just on the superiority of Tanaka rifles in general Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
bitchtits Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 as much as i love my tanaka,build quality wise it will NEVER compair to my vsr preformance wise,especialy stock. i know my vsr will preform the same everyday of the year what ever i throw at it. 90% of my round will land in exactly the same place in the same manor,something i cant bet on with my tanaka,even after its been upgraded,with every part being replaced for upgrades avaliable. as for fps,if you have to realy on having 500fps,i wouldnt class you as a sniper at all. fps means nothing... stock the vsr in shorter ranges will again come out on top. im not caring if this is limited to 330fps,with limited upgrade protential,as long as it preforms like all other marui guns i know it will preform as asked and will have little chance of breaking,something i cant expect from any other manufacturer. yes i may be a marui fan boy but thast because ive owned countless guns from many manufacturers,and worked for one of the main uk retailers,and i never saw a marui break unless its been abused in some way or another,something i couldnt say for the likes of CA,G&G,G&P. my main concern with the l96 is how its going to be priced,all uk shops seemed to have risen the prices of marui guns to stupid prices recently...a tm m14 cost the same if not more now than it at release,so i wouldnt expect this to go for much under £300 if its spring ,probably more if its gas. where i can justify having yet another boltaction is another matter. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I rely on range, if you have to get close to use your rifle I wouldn't class you a sniper at all This isn't a Tanaka vs. TM thread, please save it for the 'What am best sniper?!11'. Back ON topic, I think that this will be spring, and I think it'll be more expensive than we expect it to be, like has been said before. I also expect it to be 300 FPS, and depending on the system, have a slew of decent upgrade parts follow it into the market. That's what I like about TM. This thing, whatever system it is, will work as we expect it, as soon as it hits the retailers. There's no waiting for some unlucky so-and-so's to buy it, and then report back so that the manufacturer can fix it, and release Version 2, etc... Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
Totoro Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 As Japan has it's fps-limits it would be possible, that the L96 will be built like the older M40 from Sunproject or the new KTW Winchesters. Or maybe the magazine is just fake... Link to post Share on other sites
billytehbob Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I don't see why the PPK would not be GBB. I had a Crosman PPK bb gun that was GBB, and it was quite good. It ran off of C02 and was full metal, I don't see why TM can't replicate that. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkMM Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I don't see why the PPK would not be GBB. I had a Crosman PPK bb gun that was GBB, and it was quite good. It ran off of C02 and was full metal, I don't see why TM can't replicate that. Because they can - never underestimate a company's ability to disappoint one Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Also, Spedz, I don't get it, but it was probably sarcastic and mean http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif Sarcastic? Yes. Mean? ......I'll let you decide. However to the actual topic at hand, as per usual I will probably sit on the fence and speculate how great it is while mumbling under my breath at those who have and enjoyed it. and predict as with the rest of the group that it will maybe gather some 3rd party interest and while not being 'perfect' (Though nothing is in the field of airsoft) could/would be still a viable option for people spend their cash on if they so desired, with out harboring too much of that 'buyers remorse'. Then possibly screw my opportunity to express my feelings in a clear, precise manner and then go on to elaborating my statements with opinions and facts by being lethargic and posting a image macro which would contain certain amount of content that would be scrutinized and thusly would be aptly dealt with, in which I would be penalised for. Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Tanaka pistols = balls, Tanaka rifles = pretty wallhangers , Power =!= field performance/accuracy, airsoft + sniping = "Unable to add, incompatible type" (in saying that pls pls pls someone other than Tanaka make a browning HP GBB?) And I agree with bitchtits, having been in his position tanaka performance is inferior to marui for GBBs and rifles. How many days is it to the show? Would be interesting to see what falls out of the tree. I just bought a Maruzen PPK and marui would undoubtedly be more accurate, shoot longer per gas charge out of the box...argh boll1x! Why doesn't Marui go into the GBBR market? A Marui CZ75, MP9, Browning HP, P99, even an SMG or sort would be fan fripping-tastic. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'm not going in to the TM vs Tanaka argument here, go to the 'What am best gnu?!' thread if you want that. Marui WILL move into those markets. When they've designed, prototyped, tested, produced, and tested again a system that is marketable without any major flaws. They'll work out all the cooldown and reliability issues, and sell a truckload, because a lot of people trust them. Also, the upgrade parts are bound to be awesome. Ben. EDIT:: Also, anyone seen these yet? http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/products/11/pc356/index.html http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/R-series/line...a51r/index.html Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 THE PC356? That's TM's way off going LOLITROLLU in which they like to do from time to time. (As in form of EBB's and Springers just like the Sig Pro Release). Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 The S&W is an EBB and the Hi Capa R is a Hi Capa with limited velocity to appeal to the underage market in Japan. Link to post Share on other sites
Shinden Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 NEW MOLDS: Blowback Recoil Engine AK102 and AKs74 Bolt Action Sniper Rifle L96 AWS (Artic Winter Suppressed)in BLACK and OD. Features: All metal Aluminum outer barrel, receiver, magwell, trigger parts, and internal working parts. Optional 20mm Scope mount rail, Scope, and Bipod sold seperatly. Bolt attachment piece is included with the package. Magazine holds 40 rounds and is in correct dimensions with the BBs loading from the front of the magazine. Also features adjustable cheek rest and butt pad. FN 5-7 Gas blowback - JULY RELEASE Beretta PX4 Demo Mold and Black Desert Eagle 10" Barrel JULRY RELEASE PARTS: PEQ16 External Battery Laser body for 8.4v and Lower cut RAS. 7 Year Old Kids Guns - Glock G26 model and POLICE PISTOL Handgun. More to follow later in new post. Other current items is the new S&W PC356 and the SOCOM model Blowback and Recoil M4 that was released recently. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 thanks for the photos Shinden, but i have a couple questions, do you know if the 5-7 will come in other colors? and is there any other info on the Px4? Link to post Share on other sites
Shinden Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 In the meantime the 5-7 will be only be released as the black/grey model. No other info on the PX4, only Gas Blowback and "NEXT ITEM" Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 ah Shinden you are the man Link to post Share on other sites
Lon Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 PPK = Springer... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUU Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Bob the Sniper Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 NOOOOO!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Ehehehhe! Shinden - Any word on the L96? Specifically, is it a spring system, or gas? Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Looks like the L96 is 29,800 Yen, so about £207. Link to post Share on other sites
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