Habakure Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I want to get a boys Tavor just for *suitcases* and giggles. Imagen having to shout 'hit', knowing that you've just been tagged by a boys lpeg. Sweet. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Im with Habakure. Always wanted to get a £ shop bb gun for humiliation kills Link to post Share on other sites
johnc2k Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Any details on the 417 gearbox? I am hoping a BTC Spectre will fit Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I would assume it would. The magazine leads me to believe it's just a regular next generation gearbox Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 courtesy of Arsoftnews.fr Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I wish TM would do something with that awkward grip angle. The USPc looks really good. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 USPc still looks tasty. Too bad on the pinned mags though . 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Pinned mags is such a step backwards from our point of view. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Well given that even WE are making more and more models with screw based mags yeah it kinda is . Still getting one though. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 The USPc looks awesome. Not a fan of pinned magazines, but that's nothing that a little RTV silicone can't solve, and it's not like the screwed magazines I use (P226) have such a great reputation either. The grip angle on the HK417D does look pretty weird. I appreciate that this is some cost-cutting measure to ensure compatibility with other Recoil Shock guns' parts, but I feel like the market would have supported the cost of model-specific parts if it meant making the grip look halfway passable. It worked for VFC, didn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 The USPc looks awesome. Not a fan of pinned magazines, but that's nothing that a little RTV silicone can't solve, and it's not like the screwed magazines I use (P226) have such a great reputation either. I think it's swings and roundabouts with screwed or pinned mags, base plates that are screwed on are easier to remove/re-fit providing the screws are of a good quality (WE not being a great example there) but they do seem to lead to users just tightening them a bit more every time a leak develops rather than fixing it, the end result eventually being a stripped thread and mag fit for the bin if it's pushed too far. Pinned mags can be a right pita to work on (WE BHP being a great example of a pinned base plate that's a doddle to work on) but they do encourage actual fixes and are a bit harder to damage to the point they end up in the bin, that said I do prefer mags with the base plate screwed on, but preferably with an allen key bolt rather than posi-drive head, a torx head would be even better but I've never seen one with that. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I must admit Allen headed screws do help. Though the P226 one is rather the lower end of the TM mag pile I found, oddly the best just so happen to appear on my favourite design. When that rare leak happens I just pop the plate off with a small tool, check the o-ring, re-lube, back together and all done in two minutes max. Pinned for me just feels a bit lazy really, like they got to the end and went 'erm, oh yeah, clunk, clunk, slide in, slide in and done. No-one needs to open them anyway'. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 When that rare leak happens I just pop the plate off with a small tool, check the o-ring, re-lube, back together and all done in two minutes max. XDM mags are screwed too, only had a minor leak once and that was the same deal. Disassemble, clean, examine, regrease, assemble. I love repairs that can happen between games is the safe zone. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 XDM mags are screwed too, only had a minor leak once and that was the same deal. Disassemble, clean, examine, regrease, assemble. I love repairs that can happen between games is the safe zone. I must admit I am still rather tempted by the XDM too, I mean the little WE one I had was rather ergonomic and it has features I am used to like a grip safety and a nearer to SA trigger. But still at least the TM releases are getting quicker so that USPc might be in my hands by the end of this year or start on next which is awesome. That and the potential for a full size soon means I could do my Collateral get up without having to use a mediocre KWA along with it . 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 TM XDM is a monster for performance. If the USP is anywhere close I'll be a happy camper. Link to post Share on other sites
Kratisto Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 The USPc seems to have a very short 75mm inner barrel, like a Detonics, so even with a 15mm cylinder I'm not so sure about it having a great performance... Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I saw on Impulse's facebook the other day they're expecting the USPc + HK417 to be available from December.. Don't know how much truth is in that! Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 TM XDM is a monster for performance. If the USP is anywhere close I'll be a happy camper. See now I can afford it and the M&P I am stuck as it will eaither be one gun and many mags or both guns and maybe a spare mag . The USPc seems to have a very short 75mm inner barrel, like a Detonics, so even with a 15mm cylinder I'm not so sure about it having a great performance... Have you shot a Detonics? I was surprised to see how far the little bugger goes given the size. However the kick of the 15mm cylinder would be interesting in a smaller gun (might kick as well as the WE XDM 3.8 that I had, the only really exceptional thing about that pistol). I saw on Impulse's facebook the other day they're expecting the USPc + HK417 to be available from December.. Don't know how much truth is in that! Well December would be nice so that would mean January for us given how Christmas grinds the whole UK to a halt (stupid falsified pagan holiday that means nothing bar a overdrawn credit card to many). Saying that the HK45 and M&P popped up rather quickly after they were shown and GBB pistols are sometimes the first or second release (seems it goes recoil AEG / GBB pistol or vice-versa with TM releases). 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 not sure if anyone mentioned this before but the FDE M&P will come with VTAC sights, a nice touch: Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah, it's been mentioned some pages back. Still looks nice, just wish my black model had them a touch, mostly to see how they function over a typical three-dot sight. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
starburst Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I would bet they will be sold as an add on, if not by Marui someone will produce them. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Even though I have a black M&P, I kinda of want the FDE version as well. *suitcase*. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I just want those sights. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I just want those sights. I just want. It's a problem sometimes Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 seeing as how detonator is rolling out their TM M&P slide sets, their sights wil come out as well so you can get your VTAC style sights. Link to post Share on other sites
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