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Are SCW3 metal kits fully compatible with SCW2 base GBBs? If not, where do the incompatibilities lie and can it be modified to fit or is it a matter of overhauling internals?

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Basically I really want this pistol:

Western Arms Shibuya Shop SVI Single Column Pistol 1911-5.0 (WA-CWI)

 

I have scaled the net to try and find a supplier that are not out of stock, but have come up empty handed. So if anyone has any idea of where to find one in stock please let me know. I am aware that it was used in dumboRAT'S castor troy tribute....just cant find the ###### thing in stock anywhere lol

Would like to find this lovely gun to customise till my hearts content

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Here is my TM/PGC Kimber Classic style 1911. Trying to figure out, duracoat or blast everything and reanodize.

 

The gun schematics are:

PGC Frame custom

SD Kimber Slide

3 Hole Trigger

Skeleton Hammer

Full Spring Guide

SD Bushing set

SD Nowlin Chamber

SD Straight Barrel

Palsonite 05 Inner Barrel

Zero Ops Pistol tune "Refresh"

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I really need some help here.

 

Are there any proper Western Arms Gunsmiths in the UK?

 

Because my V10 is still broken, I can't get my head around the problem, and I don't want to risk permenantly damaging the parts..

 

If anyone has had this problem before, by all means give me some advice.

 

Essentially, the main issue is that for some reason, with the new slide installed the following occurs...

 

During cocking/firing, the barrel-chamber assembly tilts forwards instead of backwards, meaning the outer chamber does not slide back over the inner chamber, causing the gun to lock up and vent all the gas from the magazine..

 

This is a big problem, it renders my compact useless, especially since I've already sold the TF slide.. so any help from experienced members is appreciated, and anyone who can point me to a professional WA gunsmith in this country (London area would be great) I will definately owe you one, +1 if ya like that sorta thing..

 

ta.

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I know A2 has their WA specialist technician. I've used them before and they fixed the problem. You could also try eliteairsoft maybe.

 

Can you post some pics of the inner chamber and actual chamber set up?

 

If no one else offers to help, i'll have a look at it for you. I can test my steel V10 chamber/barrel and the stock one, swap out slides, frames etc and try to isolate the problem.

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if its the case of the outer barrel then go with hitman then, i dont have any spare compact parts at the moment :P, just loads of internals, but to tell you the truth it sounds like the problem is coming from the inner chamber/hop-up unit, connecting to the inner barrel, and also the fact that you chave the wrong outer barrel for the slide in question doesnt really help you alot :P

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If it helps you diagnose at all..

 

I just assembled all the internals in the original V10 frame..

 

The slide actually cycles better with the steel barrel/chamber than with the stock barrel/chamber..

 

There is still no tilt back in the barrel, it just sits flat or tilts forward.

 

The problem is certainly related to the slide imo, since the setup functioned perfectly with the TF slide.

 

At the moment, my intuition (such as it is) tells me that the tommy franks slide is thicker at the top, which means the chamber/barrel are more prone to moving downwards..

 

the SD v10 slide has a wierd dip in it.. and when the slide is drawn back, instead of the inner chamber shifting downwards it stays in position and jams against the outer chamber.

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hbc, I've had the same problem with my compact from prime.

 

I had to file the chamber.

If you look carefully, you'll see a difference between an original WA chamber, and the prime one.

I made the prime look like a WA stock one.

 

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Just file in the red area.

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I wish that was the issue, however I filed the chamber down long ago..

 

I'm really at a total loss as to the problem.., I can't believe that it could really be the slide being too loose, because if that's the case then Boomarms are selling faulty goods.

 

I mean, granted with prime you have some work to do, but at least you get a good fit in the end..

 

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just put the stock slide on the v10 with all the same internals and the chamber cycles as per usual.. im very very cunfused :(

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Titleist, here : http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_beavertail_safeties_di.asp

 

Half the price of a sheriff one.

 

hbc, did you try the SD slide, the prime frame, and the stock barrel/chamber assembly ?

 

I forget to mention that I removed the little metal piece that look like an egg with one big hole from the hop unit.

Then my chamber is only attached to the hop unit by the little metal rod.

 

Edit : part n° 122 on this diagram : PIC

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hbc, did you try the SD slide, the prime frame, and the stock barrel/chamber assembly ?

 

I forget to mention that I removed the little metal piece that look like an egg with one big hole from the hop unit.

Then my chamber is only attached to the hop unit by the little metal rod.

 

Edit  : part n° 122 on this diagram : PIC

 

yes I did try that combination, incidentally the bloody nozzle has started sticking in the forward position when I test fired the gun, but I think this is a byproduct rather than an issue with the nozzle itself..

 

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About the egghole piece of metal.. hmm, I guess I could try that, did you need to remove it to get your gun working? So it's not really needed for the gun to work then?

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About the egghole piece of metal.. hmm, I guess I could try that, did you need to remove it to get your gun working? So it's not really needed for the gun to work then?

 

Yes, the same with SD steel chamber. If I let this piece, the slide stick with the top of the chamber.

 

 

Titleist, the goverment one I think. (Commander's rear of frame is different if I recall correctly).

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Ok, now I'm really ###### off.

 

After putting the internals back into the prime frame, the issue with the nozzle is still happening..

 

essentially the nozzle is sticking out and is really hard to budge.. but if I pull it out all the way to the rubber o ring at the back it suddenly loosens up..

 

I have absolutely no idea what's going on.. :( :(

 

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AAAAAAAAAAAH

 

AHHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

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Ahem, sorry about that, it seems (after I swapped blowback chambers between the two guns, that the v10 is now firing fine.. the tommy franks is firing also, not sure why the blowback chamber didnt want to work with the v10 slide but meh, oh well..

 

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I managed to fire off an entire magazine from the v10 without any issues.. the chamber still doesnt roll back over the inner chamber, but because I removed that egghole part the chamber sits low enough so that it does not rub against the top of the slide..

 

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I'll give an update tomorrow after I've fully tested each gun.. thanks for all the help people..

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hmm, any chance of an image showing exactly which part you filed down? and have you ever experienced the wierd issue with the nozzle being stuck forward.. even when I removed it from the slide it took a lot of effort to push the nozzle back into the blowbackchamber.. like there was some pressure in there which doesnt eliviate until you pull the nozzle all the way out (past the o ring)

 

cheers.

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cheers mate, I'll set about doing that if the problem persists..

 

strangely enough after swapping the blowback chambers and removing that egghole piece, the gun now kicks at least 1.5 times harder than it did before.. the chamber/barrel are free moving but they are low enough in the slide for the top of the slide to just run over them and not jam.

 

Hopefully the second gun will be as simple to fix.. when the slide arrives.

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