michael_collins Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 What you guys think from the prototype pics? Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 They either copied PGC's mechbox design or licensed it. I'm guessing they copied it, which is good and bad. The good is the quick change spring feature, along with how easy that mechbox is to work on, and also how stout all that solid aluminum is. The bad is that they inherited a design weakness in my opinion in regards to how the hopup chamber is positioned and can vary, along with how the mechbox is mounted to the receiver. From the photos I don't see how they fixed that, but maybe there are some remedies they have in place that can't be picked out from the pics. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Actually, I think (I might be wrong, it's 12:13 am here and I need caffiene) that the CA 249 has a version 2 compatible gearbox. Whatever it is, I'm saving up for one. Let's hope that they come out with a M60 and an L85. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 I was intrigued at that "CA fans will be surprised at the cost" quote. If it does contain machined alloy parts and a stamped steel rivetted and soldered receiver I can't see how they could sell it for less than £500. I'd bet that they price it so as to just undercut the TOP one. Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Still would be a deal since it comes with a free PGC gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 well, doing it at twice the price of their aegs still beats TOP hands down, as well (hopefully) as being a better aeg, so I can't imagine that sort of cost will deter many buyers. Link to post Share on other sites
richie_j Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 hopefully, the CA release will cause TOP to cut prices as well, meaning the companies compeat, and we get better prices. HOWEVER, the lo prices could casue them to be another armalite, with millions of versions being used by everybody, making them loose the appeal of a LMG.......sorta. Link to post Share on other sites
lionel Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Maybe but it looks like it'll have quite a bit of heft not to mention kinda awkward to carry and use, i know i'll get one only because i've always wanted a TOP one but they arnt so good stock and its alot of money for a huge paper weight Link to post Share on other sites
enzo100 Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 It is nice seeing the gun that I discovered in its latter stages . looks promising me thinks. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/index.php?g...rt_from=&ucat=4 If you're an idiot like me, you never click the Read More button....just found these extra pics. I do believe i'll be getting 2. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/index.php?g...rt_from=&ucat=4 If you're an idiot like me, you never click the Read More button....just found these extra pics. I do believe i'll be getting 2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> dear god, its the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites
hAirsoft Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Looks great if it does come in at £500-650 it'll fly off the shelves regardless of how good it is. I havent got any CA items, but planned to get a TOP M240 para this year. I think I'll wait for the CA one now. More Pics In italian http://www.classicarmyitalia.com/prototipi_m249.htm naff translation http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/t...49.htm&lp=it_en Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 looks good, and CA are useing better internals to so it should be a prity sweet aeg,dont think il be getting one,but i know my dad is guna Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I noticed on CAs website that they already have a fair selection of CA249 accessories listed including the majority of the Para specific parts. Looks like a good plan would be to buy one of the full size versions then invest in the Para parts to enable you to tailor the gun to suit your needs/mood and any given time. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 dear god, its the end of the world. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, I see no drawback too it. Stuff a heavy metal piston and piston head, high fps spring, and a nice strong battery in there. You end up with almost zero gearbox noise, a noise clack on each shot, and a bit of recoil. Granted....thats IF the gearbox design can hold up to it, my old Mp5 couldnt. Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/index.php?g...rt_from=&ucat=4 If you're an idiot like me, you never click the Read More button....just found these extra pics. I do believe i'll be getting 2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> o my god Antagon is going to get a CA *falls over in disbelief* Link to post Share on other sites
enzo100 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I will probably force myself to get one. all I need isa release date and then i will be satisfied. It has been a long time I remember I first learned of this gun when I was not Arnies member and i was a member of ASUCK.... Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 What's scarier? Antagon getting an AEG? Or a CA AEG? I can't wait for this. Internals should easily be sorted out by anyone who can do basic mech box repairs. Hopefully, they won't screw up on casting the gearbox itself. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 lol, you guy's are asses. But serious, look what you're getting. Full metal Aluminum and stamped/welded STEEL Cheap! Hell, if the internals suck, I'll just stick some ToyTec internals in there. Link to post Share on other sites
WarMonger Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 what is considered cheap though, does anyone really know how much its going to cost? Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Actually, I think (I might be wrong, it's 12:13 am here and I need caffiene) that the CA 249 has a version 2 compatible gearbox. Yeah, just like the PGC mechbox. It uses Ver2 parts. Stuff a heavy metal piston and piston head, high fps spring, and a nice strong battery in there. You end up with almost zero gearbox noise, a noise clack on each shot, and a bit of recoil. Granted....thats IF the gearbox design can hold up to it, my old Mp5 couldnt. If CA machines the shell out of solid aluminum like PGC did, it will hold up to anything you put in there. That isn't as mass-production friendly or as cheap as casting though, so we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Right after the KWC co2 Uzi this is next on the list. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 what is considered cheap though, does anyone really know how much its going to cost? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I say it'll be in the 450-500usd range, perfect. Austin, we'll see indeed, It's my only alternative to the Asahi, and I don't like the Asahi becasue A) Unrealistic ROF, UnGodly high price. Hell I could stick escort internals in the 249 Link to post Share on other sites
BadAssTronaut Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I'll be getting one, but not one of the first versions. I had kinda hoped CA would have got their act together with regards to the CA V1.0 curse, but from what I've heard of the CA36C I'm afraid its not to be Antagon, your idea intrigues me, do you think it might be possible to get escort internals in the TOP NATO CUSTOM Minimi? Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Antagon, and you think people are going to settle for a "realistic" ROF on a CA249? Hell I could stick escort internals in the 249 Word on the street is that someone is doing just that. I got my Asahi already and despite not having the ammo capacity that a 2500rd box mag gives, I'm digging it. Link to post Share on other sites
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