tomo Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 There are a few other confirmed photo's out there showing AWG, but this was the clearest one I've seen to date, the others are all from a distance or from the rear but still seem to show older guys in them (not excusively however). AWG recruit people with a certain amount of army experience, tending to reinforce the idea that older, more seasoned soldiers are serving with them. You don't need to see someone's face to gauge someone's age dude, there are other things that can give indications as well - hands, posture etc. The AWG procurement list is VERY similar to one or two other units as well, hence the debate. Incidently, AWG had their Hk416's taken off of them around this time last year, so if those photo's were taken in 2008 then it would imply that they are not in fact AWG. Let me restate this is just my opinion, these guys could very well be AWG, there's every chance that they are. I've also read good points raised by others however that indicate that these photo's could show 'other' units too, so calling them AWG remains, for me at least an unproven theory. Link to post Share on other sites
tangman Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Whoever they are, they sure look badass I do not need or want a 2001 w/ ANVIS setup ....even if it is the best looking 2001 setup by far Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 If not SF enough, I'll remove them. Link to post Share on other sites
adzpac Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 On the CAG sidearm debate, it is recorded in various formats that they use Glocks and 1911's, operator preference at the same time. Loads of 1911 evidence about and for Glocks you have the pics already posted, the book "not a good day to die" and the recent KBL book are good examples. Also I have just finished reading Pete Blaber's book "The mission, the men and me" which mentions that they were using Glocks in Bosnia in the late 90's as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) Oh the ever elusive US Army SF 1911/2011 .45, anyways-moving on... Edited December 16, 2008 by Hispeed1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ace of Spades Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I know that the dude with the ACU carrier + khaki tan rig is EOD, not AWS. He's a member of LF. Link to post Share on other sites
PynkPanthyr Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) Quick question, are Hk416 used by CAG? Edited December 17, 2008 by PynkPanthyr Link to post Share on other sites
binarypunisher Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I know that the dude with the ACU carrier + khaki tan rig is EOD, not AWS. He's a member of LF. I have seen the post as well but what makes you think he is not AWG? EOD seems to be a role that would fit perfectly well within AWG. Yes, 416 is in use by CAG. Link to post Share on other sites
Augustus Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Quick question, are Hk416 used by CAG? http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/02/atCarbine070219/ Link to post Share on other sites
binarypunisher Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Cool article. Incidentally, Selfs rifle failed because they were old and worn out - not because they necessarily bad. The guns being used were relics from the Clinton era - some were almost 7 years old. The guns probably had what, 1000 rounds through them every month as well? Now guns are replaced at least every 24 months AFAIK. Maybe that problem wouldnt have occured with the 416...I dont know enough about real guns to comment on that. Link to post Share on other sites
KTcerberus Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) I had M4 issues in Iraq myself. It kept feeding rounds up above the bolt into the groove for the charging handle where the tip of the round would go into the gas tube... I switched it out with an old M16A2 very quickly. Edited December 17, 2008 by KTcerberus Link to post Share on other sites
echodafish Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thats not a weird *fruitcage* problem or anything.... Link to post Share on other sites
Dragoondark Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 That problem is way to common with m16s also. It basically deadlines the weapon, because its almost impossible to get the round out when its wedged up there. Link to post Share on other sites
KTcerberus Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 No kidding, I had to use my Gerber to cut the round out. It spilled ball power all over inside my upper. Link to post Share on other sites
Dragoondark Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 yeah, the only field solutions I've heard are gerber to the round or slam the buttstock to the ground to dislodge it. Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHeart_ASN Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Hmmm... Kitlist? What i´m able to id is the AWS CQB vest in coyote, G19, HK416 with eotech. But... what flashlight are he using? And the uniform?? digi2 or marpat frog? And the gloves? I´ve found a replica of the vest in coyote: http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=5887 But i don´t find the rest of the gear. Regards Link to post Share on other sites
mrk Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Digi2, Mechanix Heady Duty 4.0. Not sure about the light but looks like Surefire 6P or similar with XM07 tailcap Link to post Share on other sites
Blindside Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 The light looks like a Surefire Scout Light. http://www.opticsplanet.net/surefire-weapo...m600-kit01.html Link to post Share on other sites
PynkPanthyr Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Does anyone have a bigger version of that picture? Link to post Share on other sites
tangman Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 The light is a Surefire 6P with an XM07 Tailcap and it has the Shock Bezel, not sure about the mount he has used. Here is a comparison pic with the Scout and 6P which has a similar setup except I don't have the shock bezel. Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 (edited) Just a fun pickup game yesterday: err...joint ops with MFR and indigs? (Mr_Kong in the CIRAS, and some local with Pantac stuff) Edited December 21, 2008 by Sinner101GR Link to post Share on other sites
tomo Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Members of Operational Detachment Alpha 3336 of the 3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne) recon the remote Shok Valley of Afghanistan where they fought an almost seven-hour battle with terrorists in a remote mountainside village. Photo by Sgt. David N. Gunn December 15, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hmmm, I thought those guys were 24th STS. Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Here is my SOF (think of that what you will ) kit: 1 Paraclete RAV 2 Paraclete M4 pouch 1 GPS Pouch (holding the radio under cummerbund) 1 Handmade under-cummerbund 4 mag shingle 1 CAT 1 Icom with PTT Edited December 22, 2008 by [BS]_MARS Link to post Share on other sites
JAYALA Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Pretty darn sexy, but it is asking for more pouches... Anyway, great looking rig, I just got an HPC and i'm starting to crave RAV Link to post Share on other sites
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