sook Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 This appeared in today's Star (and I presume the paper version of the Sun too). Not going to do the sport any favours. Why are they even kneeling on the guy? Seems a bit extreme even for a milsim event! Sun news story Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Another article in which no one who wrote it knows about the game, or what Milsim is about. Though i must agree the whole kneeling on the guy is a bit extreme. Executive member Mokhtar Badri said: “They could use any colour or dress to tell between teams. Using Arab dress is shortsighted and foolish.” Again, someone who clearly doesnt know the point of milsim, or its practices. But then again, maybe im just being shortsighted... Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 So, are the Muslim leaders denying the fact that "extremeists" in the middle east wear shemaghs?...or would they be more happy at a balanced set of images...like guys in shemaghs on the verge of beheading some guys in allied dress uniforms? Or is this just another example of the tabloid press creating a story out of nothing.....perhaps someone should tell the muslim leaders that any number of allied special forces personnel wear shemaghs, not to mention fashion victims on the streets of London (who clearly arn't muslim).....if you want to be a victim you'll find an aggressor on every street corner I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Garibaldi Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Are there people that still believe the stories published in the Sun ? I'm amazed to see that people actually buy this so called newspaper... Link to post Share on other sites
dubber Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 This is madness and will no doubt be a massive blow to the sport in the UK. I can see it one day being a real nanny state and airsofters will look like paint ballers Why are some people so dumb ! they didnt have the decency to reasurch before they spout there mouths off ! What next school children stopped from playing cowboys etc ! the place is going mad ! Link to post Share on other sites
CptNemo Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Seem pretty harmless to me but then again im not muslim so http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1012528.ece Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Wow! This is now the third thread on this subject. Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 There's probably a lot of journalistic licence gone into that story. I think its a pretty funny personally. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 What about when soldiers play "enemy" on exercise? First thing they do is don the dessies and wrap a shemagh around their heads. Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 What's next? Is the German ambassador going to complain when a WWII game is played? Is the Russian ambassador going to complain when a Cold War game is played? Are the Smurfs going to complain because people wear blue armbands????? Putting on a shamagh does not make one an Arab - plenty of non-Arab people wear shemaghs.... Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 To be fair, no one has called for the beheading of airsoft site owners, be thankful for that, atleast. Link to post Share on other sites
Bada Bing Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Thats classic that is! Guy on the right with his knee across the "arabs" back wearing a smile i love it Link to post Share on other sites
BlackHawkHarlequin Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Why would you be searching on the trashy website of an even more trashy newspaper? Also how many arabs do you see in britain wearing shemaghs? They are typically worn in the desert for hot dusty conditions. The only shemaghs ive seen in the street are the brightly coloured ones worn by emo's etc.. These people are stupid, its a game, who are they to say we cant wear a strip of material round our heads because it is sensitive towards their culture? You dont hear any of us complaining about arab oil tycoons in the emirates wearing suits do you? Grr it makes me angry Link to post Share on other sites
sook Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 All fair points. I'm sure that nothing was meant by these phots, but in the current media-hysteria climate it would probably be wise not to put photos on your website showing that type of thing because they can easily be taken out of context by, as someone pointed out above, someone with no idea of what airsoft is. Mind you, I can't help thinking that if the photo showed a WW2, Vietnam or Falklands event there would have been no issue. It could also be pointed out that in this game it would be perfectly possible for the 'Arabs' to win! Link to post Share on other sites
[Apex] Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 thats just rediculous... plenty of military members wear shemaghs who arnt arab, its just a fashion/utility... Link to post Share on other sites
SiLeNt BuT DeAdLY Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 This sort of stuff gets my tits! why does it have to be racist? if there was a ww2 one would that be racist? NO! so why is it, just because they are dressed up as 'arabs' but then again who said they are trying to imatate an 'Arab' look its racist? surey people in texas and other hot deserts where them! they are just making something out of nothing, they think they are always the victim, when obviously they are picking on us, because they know nobody has the balls to stick up for them selves when the word racist comes into a argument, because we are all too scared of being branded racist! As for the sun, why encourage it by priniting such a rubbish story, about something they know nothing of. I think that any 'arab' who thinks it is racist, is racist them selves. Just because we are british/english ae are not allowed to play dress up! Germans dont moan when theres a ww2 milsim, and people dress up as a Nazi, thats because they know its simple (harmless) reconstruction! PATHETIC ! Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 To be fair, no one has called for the beheading of airsoft site owners, be thankful for that, atleast. At least not yet. This is me at a game quite a few years ago. Does this mean the opponents can't shoot me or they will be racist, or am I to expect death-threats because stealing someone else's costume? This is a case of freedom of expression and freedom of speech. They are important values for me, could be compared to someone's relationship with religion. Do not back down a single inch from your rights. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
sook Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Just realised I better can the idea of dressing up as an Albanian Pikey at Urban this weekend as there may be some bloke from the Sun there with a camera and I may upset some of the locals! And I was so looking forward to wearing a shell-suit! Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Germans dont moan when theres a ww2 milsim, and people dress up as a Nazi, thats because they know its simple (harmless) reconstruction! Nazi gear with the swastikas, totenkopfs and other insignia is illegal to wear in Germany. There would be a public uprising if someone found out that people were playing nazi on an airsoft field in Germany. (If there are any.) But that's just an example that we Europeans (or some of us) can be equally stupid about these issues. Just realised I better can the idea of dressing up as an Albanian Pikey at Urban this weekend as there may be some bloke from the Sun there with a camera and I may upset some of the locals! And I was so looking forward to wearing a shell-suit! Do it. Just make sure your face isn't recognizable in the photographs. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Why arent these conscientious arabs complaining about the fundamentalists who kill other arabs, because they also wear shemaghs to commit FAR more insidious acts... I can sort of see some very minor insensitivity in the pics of army men appearing to be mistreating shemagh wearers (wont call them arabs as msot likely they are not) but on the other hand theyve made clear at least in one pic that the shemagh wearer was *armed*, thereby a plot device to facilitate the scene. At the end of the day, the Sun and scum-papers like them only exist for one reason - to gain sales by appealing to the brain-damaged frothing right wing fascists of this country. "This is bad! BURN IT!" Theyre like hitler, in print. Link to post Share on other sites
BlackHawkHarlequin Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Im gonna make a point of wearing my shemagh at every skirmish I attend from this moment onwards. Link to post Share on other sites
Xaccers Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 You know those people who normally start a sentence with "I'm not racist but..." ? This is the Sun's version. "We're not anti-muslim, we have a token muslim reporter, she wears a scarf and everything, and look, we're making out we're shocked at anti-muslim activities*, so now we can post about how muslims are trying to take over Britain and bring in Sharia law with a clear concience" *while also stirring up that "bloody muslims telling us what we can and can't do in our own country" sentiment Link to post Share on other sites
BlackHawkHarlequin Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 You know those people who normally start a sentence with "I'm not racist but..." ? This is the Sun's version. "We're not anti-muslim, we have a token muslim reporter, she wears a scarf and everything, and look, we're making out we're shocked at anti-muslim activities*, so now we can post about how muslims are trying to take over Britain and bring in Sharia law with a clear concience" *while also stirring up that "bloody muslims telling us what we can and can't do in our own country" sentiment You have absolutely got it down to a "T" Mate Link to post Share on other sites
sook Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I can sort of see some very minor insensitivity in the pics of army men appearing to be mistreating shemagh wearers (wont call them arabs as msot likely they are not) but on the other hand theyve made clear at least in one pic that the shemagh wearer was *armed*, thereby a plot device to facilitate the scene. As if any further evidence were needed of what the papers can do, the original Star aritcle that one of my colleagues gave to me had been cropped so the RPG wasn't visible. Link to post Share on other sites
Coldgunner Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Nazi gear with the swastikas, totenkopfs and other insignia is illegal to wear in Germany. There would be a public uprising if someone found out that people were playing nazi on an airsoft field in Germany. (If there are any.) I may be wrong but I thought there were exemptions for things like re-enactment, film making etc? Link to post Share on other sites
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