junior Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Out of all the bodies they could've released I wonder why they choose to release that one first? How are G&P bodies fit wise on AEG's? I wonder if their going to be a pain to fit onto the WA M4... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BaBaBooey Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Out of all the bodies they could've released I wonder why they choose to release that one first? How are G&P bodies fit wise on AEG's? I wonder if their going to be a pain to fit onto the WA M4... From my experience, G&P kits are horrible. Every single one that I've installed had more than one horrible issue. However, the last one that I installed was more than two years ago, so they might have improved (only their CNC bodies fit well). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 i've had 2 G&P bodies. look nice and worked nice. it's not VFC or KA, but they do work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Well, I contacted Airsoft Global yesterday and they got back to me this morning saying that the G&P steel bolt catches will be in stock and available for purchase tomorrow! Ready your credit cards and paypal accounts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 The G&P AEG bodies I've been testing over the last couple of years have been consistent and robust. They're almost the only MBK I use on my M4s. As for the WA M4... I've already got a Bolt Catch on it's way to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeathWish007 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) The G&P AEG bodies I've been testing over the last couple of years have been consistent and robust. They're almost the only MBK I use on my M4s. As for the WA M4... I've already got a Bolt Catch on it's way to me. Where did you order the bolt catch? BTW, I like that G&P ZOMBIE KILLER, so I decided to order one. Just hope I know what im doing when I install it Edited August 19, 2008 by DeathWish007 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKRay Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Out of all the bodies they could've released I wonder why they choose to release that one first? How are G&P bodies fit wise on AEG's? I wonder if their going to be a pain to fit onto the WA M4... My experience of fitting a G&P zombie Killer metal body on an AEG, is that it's an absolute *badgeress* to get to fit. There again, I could've been really unlucky. I really, really want one of these M4s, which is a problem, I'm trying to save up to move house. Out of interest, as I haven't been following this thread very well (every time I come back, there's like another 20 pages added ), have all the issue parts had improved replacements released (or soon to be released) now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IBICO Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=25144 now when we where talking about the devil.. Redwolf just got the Zombie and the PDI 6.01 barrel now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Where did you order the bolt catch? A friend of mine in HK has connections with many of the HK based manufacturers and retail stores. He just went straight to G&P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Lets put it this way....if the G&P bodies aren't a good fit right out of the box you guys are in a world of hurt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalmar Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) I'm still highly considering purchasing this gun... I just need some clarification on one thing: does this rifle accept real steel upper receivers? All the pictures I have seen suggest so but I want to be sure before I drop the cash on this beast. Edited August 19, 2008 by Kalmar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm still highly considering purchasing this gun... I just need some clarification on one thing: does this rifle accept real steel upper receivers? All the pictures I have seen suggest so but I want to be sure before I drop the cash on this beast. No. It does not work with RS uppers or lowers. Its been tried and failed...trust me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalmar Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 No. It does not work with RS uppers or lowers. Its been tried and failed...trust me Is it because the dimensions are off? Or is it because of a completely different design altogether? I knew the lower would be different due to the gas in mag system however I thought most uppers would still be a good fit :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Is it because the dimensions are off? Or is it because of a completely different design altogether? I knew the lower would be different due to the gas in mag system however I thought most uppers would still be a good fit :/ Nope the RS uppers are a weeeee bit too long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm still highly considering purchasing this gun... I just need some clarification on one thing: does this rifle accept real steel upper receivers? All the pictures I have seen suggest so but I want to be sure before I drop the cash on this beast. FYI Western Arms is made in Japan Japan has tough laws on airsoft guns. It must not in anyway shape or form convertable to use Live rounds. In another words compatibility for a upper would highly suggest the possibility Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Also, the lower is about 1-2mm narrower on a WA than on a RS version. Which would imply the upper would be likewise different dimension-wise. Personally, I'm fine with the body being plastic. I just want it reliable. Which is why I'm glad they've finally released the steel Bolt Catch and reinforced HopUp. All I need now is a Aluminum Bolt, and I'll be content. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) Hmm, have you had problems with bolt breakage uscmCorps? So far the only problems I've heard of are the bolt catch breaking (hopefully fixed w/ G&P steel bolt catch), the hopup collar breaking (fixed w/ RA Tech hopup unit), and the loading muzzle breaking... but the loading muzzle breakage only happened when you installed an upgraded recoil spring. Leave the recoil spring stock and it shouldn't be a problem, or so I've heard. Never heard anything about the actual metal bolt unit breaking though. Have you had trouble with yours? Edited August 20, 2008 by Jin15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 He means the bolt carrier. If it was made from Alum instead of the heavy pot metal, it would cycle faster and probably help out on gas usage. Not to mention reducing the wear and tear on the hopup feed collar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee1hy Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) go get metal body and you can attach real upper (only execpt GP) zeke,2roy,inkatsu are real size but problem is boltcarrier size. so they are add bolt spacer in bolt carrier, you can see 2roy and inokatch have bolt carrier spacer but why go real upper? prime will make VLTOR(hard anodiazing as real), and inokatstu made the forged upper body. Edited August 20, 2008 by lee1hy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 go get metal body and you can attach real upper (only execpt GP) zeke,2roy,inkatsu are real size but problem is boltcarrier size. so they are add bolt spacer in bolt carrier, you can see 2roy and inokatch have bolt carrier spacer but why go real upper? prime will make VLTOR(hard anodiazing as real), and inokatstu made the forged upper body. I seriously doubt even with the metal lower that a RS upper will properly fit. Thats really asking for trouble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Sounds to me like someone's dishing out advice without actually doing the research to see if it's possible or not... yet again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freq88 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 why would anyone want to spend the money to get a RS lower, go through all the registration process just to fit it for airsoft?!! Isn't part of airsoft's appeal is not having to go through all the BS of RS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee1hy Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) yes no reason go to real upper fit to wam4 metal body. prime and inokatsu made better body without modfication fit WAm4 then RS but omg..i saw 95% ptw US player made real steel with their PTW (90%real steel + 10%PTW parts) on systema-europe lol, maybe US player thought RS parts are cheap and more strong then airsoft parts??? and easy to get RS in US local. so they are want RS. this is why US player spend money to get RS in my thought. but today/next TW/JP/HK airsoft will make better than RS, (except some HK/CHINA oem prodct) lol Edited August 20, 2008 by lee1hy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 yes no reason go to real upper fit to wam4 metal body. prime and inokatsu made better body without modfication fit WAm4 then RS but omg..i saw 95% ptw US player made real steel with their PTW (90%real steel + 10%PTW parts) on systema-europe lol, maybe US player thought RS parts are cheap and more strong then airsoft parts??? and easy to get RS in US local. so they are want RS. this is why US player spend money to get RS in my thought. but today/next TW/JP/HK airsoft will make better than RS, (except some HK/CHINA oem prodct) lol Seriously I call bs. Provide a link to someone who is stupid enough to use a RS lower, which is a registered firearm. Yes RS is cheaper, you can buy a RS lower for about 100 usd, and a RS upper for under 100 usd. BUT congrats now you have a airsoft rifle that is considered a RS firearm by any LEO. Whats even better, is under the ATF laws, if that airsoft replica shoots full auto, it can be considered a post 86 machinegun. Doesn't matter that it shoots plastic pellets, you were stupid enough to make a RS lower capable of firing anything full auto. You get fined a butt load of money for that and then you go to jail for a few years. Please stop posting unless you have a clue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee1hy Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) yeah. most USA/Canada player they are have cheap RS and try to fit airsoft. and they are try real steel fit to AEG too. its BIG problem. and 90% post in US located (and who sell RS to outside, i saw US who sell RS upper 550USD to outside. taking private money, and here too) its really really very bad and only US player disaffection to airsoft price vs RS price. its so ridiculous. lol Edited August 20, 2008 by lee1hy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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