WE Gas Blow Back M4A1 Carbine

[newcomer]

The gap doesn't disappear no matter how hard i press the upper down. Besides, adding material in the pin hole will only make knocking the pin in and out harder, increasing takedown time.

Edited March 16, 2009 by newcomer

[BigAl]

btw, does anybody know a fair source for a Magpul trigger guard without excessive shipping costs?

 

Full Gear Up are resonable on shipping cost and can supply all of the above at good prices.

Edited March 16, 2009 by BigAl

[xerxes]

Good link BigAl; just ordered some kit from them.

 

Don't suppose you know where to get real AR15 pistol grips as opposed to crappy AEG heatsink-bottomed ones?

[somegirls]

You can get RS pistolgrips at any firearm onlinestore.

 

And I also think the AEG gris won't fit on the WE because the holes for the screws are in different positions.

[BigAl]

You'll probably find something here;

 

http://www.ar15.com/

 

or

 

http://www.parts4ar15.com/ar-15_accessorie...R-15_Grips.html

 

finally here

 

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Stocks...dguards-s/6.htm

 

Recomend the Ergo grip on the last link.

Edited March 16, 2009 by BigAl

[xerxes]

Cheers.

 

BravoCompanyUSA state they wont ship outside of the US, but list other countries on their shipping page... Can anyone confirm or deny based on a recent order?

[BigAl]

Try finding an American member to ship to.

[xerxes]

I'd rather not ship a few hundred dollars worth of stuff to someone I've never met on the premise they'll then forward it on to me, athankyouverymuch.

[The Chef]

xerxes... try

 

www.midwayuk.com

 

 

 

[uscmCorps]

btw, does anybody know a fair source for a Magpul trigger guard without excessive shipping costs?

You probably want to make sure you get the RS Magpul Trigger Guard rather than the PTS one. The PTS one is wider and may not fit in the WE.

[wraithxt1]

If you check out the TS One website, they have the add-on weights (says how heavy) for sale plus a 90% recoil spring. They also have a replacement buffer thats already made heavier and according to them adds 75% to felt recoil.

 

 

Some real ones have them. You can shim it by adding material (i used a thin layer of super glue) on the upper receiver pin holes.

As for damaging the bbs upon chambering, you can smoothen out the inner and outer edges of the nozzle tip with a scouring pad/steel wool, just enough to round the edges.

 

So what would be the best way to increase the recoil? The Recoil weights and the 90% recoil spring? Or the replacement buffer? What about both?

[rottenotto]

Also, the nozzle is putting marks on my bbs resulting in knuckleball flights . Is WE going to resolve this issue? Any DIY solutions yet to this?

 

 

Not sure what this means???

 

Are you talking about the dallops and smudges of black grease it applies to your bb's while loading? Which all GBB do?

 

If so, lighten up the use of silicone in your gas mixture. Canned green gas is out (in my opinion) its all ###### out there today (100% AIRSOFT SHOOTING SILICONE WITH A BIT OF GREEN GAS ADDED!!)

 

And keep the breech clean. And inner barrel while you are at it.

 

If your chopping bb's, that has EVERYTHING to do with the brand of bb. It not your WE's fault.

 

Try a different brand. And dont use "bio degradeable bb's" - I know some say they use it just fine, but I dont use bb's made of dog food - especially in a gun that is over 500fps.

 

Last thing - perhaps a weakly powered mag is the source of yours (or anybody's) chopped bb's (not clearing the bb stack on the back stroke -misfeeds=chopped bb's).

 

The sharp edges in the forward breech have ZERO to do with chopped bb's and misfeeds. That isnt an issue at all.

 

 

 

 

 

[Carsten]

There is now a "Original Replacement Parts Price List of WE Gas Blow Back M4 and Worldwide Warranty Services" list on airsoftbuddy!

 

Some prices have changed, e.g. trigger unit -> $45.50 and steel bolt catch $5.50

 

 

And we provide worldwide warranty services to all WE Gas Blow Back M4 users. You just send us your problem parts, then we will ship the replacement to you. For details, please email to us.

 

Edited March 16, 2009 by Carsten

[redline]

Somegirls, I have the same Dboys RIS...when you say wobble, are you talking about rotation wobble? Can you be more elaborate on how you fixed it? The top half was a very tight fight (bottome section fit just fine) especialy around the toothy barrel nut...but I can't figure out which part is causing the wobble...super annoying!

[Vila]

My WE M4 is came in today and I LOVE IT! I haven't noticed any receiver wobble as of yet or any other issues. So far so good.

[sabrepilot9000]

Just be sure to loctite that valve down inside the bolt carrier. It'll do wonders for your gun.

 

Also, I saw this on airsoft buddy's site. This looks promising.

 

http://airsoftbuddy.com/index_eproduct_vie...products_id=226

 

Perhaps this is what WETTI has been saying about self-aligning with the nozzles? I may have to pick one up on my next order.

[renegadecow]

Not sure what this means???

His bbs don't get chopped. Agreed that ammo used can solve that. But he's getting very erratic trajectory (knuckleball is a baseball term for it). I've not had this on my N4, but my old M700 with similar double-lip feeding system did. The cause was an overly sharp edged nozzle, which upon loading would impart a half-moon scar on the surface on the bb and affect flight.

Edited March 17, 2009 by renegadecow

[rottenotto]

His bbs don't get chopped. Agreed that ammo used can solve that. But he's getting very erratic trajectory (knuckleball is a baseball term for it). I've not had this on my N4, but my old M700 with similar double-lip feeding system did. The cause was an overly sharp edged nozzle, which upon loading would impart a half-moon scar on the surface on the bb and affect flight.

 

 

Ok, I see.

Thats just the result of a sucko hop unit.

Made worse by constant "wetting" from the gas mixture. GBB rifles run dirty, no way around it. Cant wait for CO2. It isnt clean like HPA, but will be better than propane gas and silicone.

 

And we will see if TS Ones new hopup is any good. Has to be better.

 

 

[Brian™]

If anyone still wants a RAS, I have a brand new one for sale..

[Airsoft Buddy]

For your information, all WE Gas Blow Back M4 at our store, are already comes with the new design hop-up with carbine length's inner barrel.

Edited March 17, 2009 by Airsoft Buddy

[redline]

Just be sure to loctite that valve down inside the bolt carrier. It'll do wonders for your gun.

 

Also, I saw this on airsoft buddy's site. This looks promising.

 

http://airsoftbuddy.com/index_eproduct_vie...products_id=226

 

Perhaps this is what WETTI has been saying about self-aligning with the nozzles? I may have to pick one up on my next order.

 

 

sabrepilot, which valve are you talking about? which part number on the diagram?

 

[The Chef]

So do we know of any release date on the TS Custom steel nozzles and new barrel/hop sets yet? Say's coming soon on their webby.

 

Also, I shall assume that the Steel nozzles are going to come in at 'UBER FPS' setting rather than a more UK skirmish friendly 300-350fps.

and if that is the case, do you think that the brass power reduction part No.42 will be compatible with it?

 

[Cephas]

I replaced my stock valve which shoots roughly 500 fps with part number 42 from AB. According to AB it degrades the gun to 300 fps. Well I made a second bolt group with part #42 and chronoed it today. I was surprised I was getting readings ranging from 390 to 410 fps after 30 rounds. My goal was just to make the gun shoot below 425 so I could play in games. This is exactly the sweet spot most including myself are looking for in the US. So it seems the #42 valve AB details as shooting 300 fps shoots closer to 400 fps. I used propane, 0.20 gram bbs, and room temp was about 65 degrees F.

[somegirls]

Somegirls, I have the same Dboys RIS...when you say wobble, are you talking about rotation wobble? Can you be more elaborate on how you fixed it? The top half was a very tight fight (bottome section fit just fine) especialy around the toothy barrel nut...but I can't figure out which part is causing the wobble...super annoying!

 

If you look at the inside of the back end of the upper RIS part you see a grove (where the the barrelnut fits in) and 2 small bolt inside that groove at about 11 and 1 o'clock.

 

I think these bolts are too thin, so there's some play between the bolts and the gaps in the barrel nut.

What I did is I put some slices of tape onto these bolts.

When you reapply the RIS you have to press it down fairly hard to make the teeth of the barrelnut "bite" into the tape.

 

I can take a picture of it later on when I come home.

 

 

Some prices have changed, e.g. trigger unit -> $45.50 and steel bolt catch $5.50

 

Yeah they also made the charging handle $13.50, originally it was $10

 

By the way,

does anybody know a guide about maintaining the WE?

It sure is different to a GBB pistol, so there might be spots people don't think about lubing or whatever.

Good thing is the bolt actually "runs" on these little wheels on the top as well as on the trigger instead of sliding like a pistol.

 

So can anybody give any tips?

I always used Abbey moly-paste for the running parts of the slide. Dunno if that would work well with the M4 though.

Edited March 17, 2009 by somegirls

[Airsoft Buddy]

All prices are set by WE, so we need to follow WE's prices. But you can see that a lot of replacement parts are very cheap.

 

And the Part #42, the one that we sell is around 300fps. It was tested by 0.2g BBs with top gas. Maybe the different weather, the power maybe different.

 

The new design hop-up with barrel is now available to comes with all the WE GBB M4. For standalone item, then we may need a bit while.

Edited March 17, 2009 by Airsoft Buddy