Jump to content

WE Gas Blow Back M4A1 Carbine


Recommended Posts

mh, good question since a good friend of mine wants to buy one WE M4 and I need some spare parts (and the steel nozzles :D ) for myself..

 

..until those problems with AB began I'd would have told my friend to buy only @ AB and nowhere else because of the good service ( I bought my own M4 @ AB ) .. now I'm not quite sure :/

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 7.6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Heres my latest custom job, a WE GBBR version of a Colt Slab Sides Carbine. If anyone knows a pla ce that could machine me a proper outer barrel, I would like to get in contact with them and have a pr

Heres my custom WE M733. I have a modified RS Bushmaster upper receiver as well as RS buffer tube, castle nut, stock, stock plate, pistol grip, front grips, front sight, and some various other small b

Hehehe, Im with you Hwagan. I dumped my LM4 like a bad habit a few months ago and switched back to the WE platform. Used the extra money to get myself a trademarked M16, slapped a RS A2 upper receiver

Posted Images

The new design hop-up with barrel is now available to comes with all the WE GBB M4. For standalone item, then we may need a bit while.

I think mine may be one of first with this new hop up as my shots are firing nice and straight up to almost 200ft with .25g BB's.

Link to post
Share on other sites

nah, there really isnt any straight up versions. they have gone through many little changes material wase. right now, the AFC custom "version 2" has a steel bot catch, 350fps nozzle and trades. those were the voiced changes.

 

when the barrel and reinforced charging handle come out, that will be the "version 3"

Edited by Horsem4n
Link to post
Share on other sites
Yup renegadecow said it all. Spot on on the half moon scar thing. I believe that's the major cause for the erratic flights. I'm using dry propane too. I don't think it's the hop rubber that's hurting the bbs since it's well... rubber. I would say the nozzle tip is the main culprit. Perhaps a brass nozzle lined with a softer material would work better? The nozzle rounding technique won't work, the brass tip works just too fast and hard on the relatively soft bbs.

 

I get about 1 shot totally lacking power in about 6-7 shots too. I'm suspecting my bolt valve seals are dry and "sticky"?

 

 

Absolutely not even possible.

There is a huge difference between this Escort copy loading nozzle (blunt/thick/brass) and say, a KSC Mac-11, or Pegasus loading nozzle (thin/razor sharp/aluminum).

 

This loading nozzle isnt scarring bb's. It couldnt. It would smash it to pieces before scarring it. (which I have proven) Just look at your loading nozzle, it is wide and blunt. Nothing like most other gas systems/nozzles.

 

The erratic flight is >mostly< the cause of a craptastic hopup design. Well documented and the reason TS-one/WE is trying to do something better.

 

New slightly better hopup design coming soon.

 

Everything about the PRESENT hopup sucks.

 

The material is the wrong durometer, especially for a gun firing 500 fps (!!) It is grippy, inconsistent silicone (not rubber).

 

Also its shape sucks.....it is a tiny "microdot" that touches the bb. Rather than a speedbump shaped AEG style hop. The bb will either touch the "dot" head on (2% of the time) or go left and right of it - creating "hook".

 

Take that and make it worse by a dirty and wet (even with NO silicone added) propulsion system. GBB rifles will never be as accurate as an AEG, especially on full auto. Thats life.

 

The thrill of blowback and noise overides the negatives. But still, inconsistency remains as the one reason why "GBB rifles" hve been more "collector pieces" than "tools in the field".

 

This gun is the best yet, but far from perfect. We are all working on it,

Edited by rottenotto
Link to post
Share on other sites
Take that and make it worse by a dirty and wet (even with NO silicone added) propulsion system. GBB rifles will never be as accurate as an AEG, especially on full auto. Thats life.

 

The thrill of blowback and noise overides the negatives. But still, inconsistency remains as the one reason why "GBB rifles" hve been more "collector pieces" than "tools in the field".

 

This gun is the best yet, but far from perfect. We are all working on it,

 

unless you hook up a compressed air rig.

no cool down, no liquids.

Link to post
Share on other sites
I've took some photos tonight about the steel nozzle assembly for WE Gas Blow Back M4. Actually this kit have 2 powers for you to choose. 300fps version and 480fps version. Only the nozzle made in steel. Please refer to the following link for both power versions.

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/kcyauwil/Steel...EGasBlowBackM4#

 

And these 2 items are now available at our store now.

 

no, just the nozzle itself.

Edited by Horsem4n
Link to post
Share on other sites

For the new hop-up design with inner barrels (262 and 363mm), I will place order to WE today. I hope I can get it as soon as possible to place at AB for sell.

 

All WE M4s that we are selling is already included the new design hop-up with inner barrel.

 

Now all delay problems happened before time are settled. I'm fully 100% work at AB now. So your enquiry and orders will response not later than 24 hours.

Edited by Airsoft Buddy
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey all, I was wondering if someone could confirm something for me. I recently convinced a couple of friends to look into buying the WE for training since the economy isn't doing to well, and would allow me to play with my buds as well. (They only shoot at the range) But I was wondering if it was true that when you do a tactical reload one bb stays in the chamber every time and doesn't fall out if you shake the gun. This small little detail is important to them and me as well and would like to just get a report from someone who owns one if you all don't mind. Other than that excited for it as I can't wait to pick up one of these, especially with the new barrel and hop up. Thanks

 

-Phily

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hey all, I was wondering if someone could confirm something for me. I recently convinced a couple of friends to look into buying the WE for training since the economy isn't doing to well, and would allow me to play with my buds as well. (They only shoot at the range) But I was wondering if it was true that when you do a tactical reload one bb stays in the chamber every time and doesn't fall out if you shake the gun. This small little detail is important to them and me as well and would like to just get a report from someone who owns one if you all don't mind. Other than that excited for it as I can't wait to pick up one of these, especially with the new barrel and hop up. Thanks

 

-Phily

 

There are no rounds left in the chamber once the magazine is empty. Unlike an aeg, the WE fires all bb's from the magazine and leaves nothing in the chamber.

Link to post
Share on other sites
I've took some photos tonight about the steel nozzle assembly for WE Gas Blow Back M4. Actually this kit have 2 powers for you to choose. 300fps version and 480fps version. Only the nozzle made in steel. Please refer to the following link for both power versions.

From the pictures it would seem that the part #42 is also steel inside the nozzle. Great! :D

 

I've been wondering about the possibility to adjust the power myself. Looking at the 300fps and 480fps versions, is the only difference in the lower fps version the length of the metal rod that pushes the part #42 forward? This difference looks pretty much similar as in the earlier "high" and "low" powered versions.

 

So would it be possible to tune up the power just by filing off some of the rod?

 

PS. I'm ready to order one (and some other parts as well) as soon as the new hopup and barrel is available.

Link to post
Share on other sites
But I was wondering if it was true that when you do a tactical reload one bb stays in the chamber every time and doesn't fall out if you shake the gun.

 

I don't own one yet so I can't answer, but he's asking if you take a mag out before all rounds are fired will some fall to the ground - as with an AEG? I'd like to know this as well. I'm thinking no, since the mag loading tip looks like a GBB clip - and those don't drop. I practice tactical reloads with my KWA Glock.

Edited by Tengar
Link to post
Share on other sites
I don't own one yet so I can't answer, but he's asking if you take a mag out before all rounds are fired will some fall to the ground - as with an AEG? I'd like to know this as well. I'm thinking no, since the mag loading tip looks like a GBB clip - and those don't drop. I practice tactical reloads with my KWA Glock.

 

when the bb is pushed into the chamber before it is fired, it sits right behind the hopup and will not fall out, even if shook.

 

however, when you take the mag out to reload, it's not like you can shoot DURING the reload. the gas is stored in the magazine, and cannot fire without it being physically present in the gun.

Edited by accuracy
Link to post
Share on other sites

SmokenGhosts/Tengar

 

No, they do not. There is no pre-hop tube to catch a number of BB's in, the loading tube feeds straight from the top of the mag the same as it does for a pistol.

 

So a Beeb will remain inside the chamber if you change mag before its empty.

 

Whether it stays in the barrel and doesn't roll out the front depends on how much your hop is on. Mine has yet to have a 'roll out'.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and the use of session cookies.