farrasdevell Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Stick with it mightyjebus tinkering all the way seems to be the key. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 The same thing happened to me! Also I've experienced the problem with the inner barrel sitting low in the outer barrel. Thinking about it now my CQB inner barrel had a small brass circular sleeve attached to it in the box. I just removed it (hopefully I didn't bin it!) but I couldn't figure out what it was for. Maybe it was supposed to be used as a spacer?? Did anyone else have one? Â If I did bin it I suppose a suitably sized rubber o-ring would just do the same job? Â Yes Chris, that is the 'inner barrel stabilizer' that comes with the extra CQBR barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Oops! I hope I didn't chuck it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSOJGNILRAD Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hey WETTI I've seen some pics of peoples version 3 M4's with the loading nozzle with the 2 orings on it. Are those the CO2 nozzles? If so is there any good estimate of when those would be available? I know you are dealing with other *suitcase* right now but those things look sexy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yes Chris, that is the 'inner barrel stabilizer' that comes with the extra CQBR barrel. Â I still havn't managed to get the front end off my outer barrel, it really is stuck on there. Having read these last couple of posts I decided to double check the bubble wrap my CQBR barrel came in for this CQBR adapter. It's a damn good job I don't bin wrapping as sure enough I found the damn thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I still havn't managed to get the front end off my outer barrel, it really is stuck on there. Having read these last couple of posts I decided to double check the bubble wrap my CQBR barrel came in for this CQBR adapter. It's a damn good job I don't bin wrapping as sure enough I found the damn thing I had the same problem! Mine was really stuck on but I boiled the kettle several times and held the join under the steam and eventually I managed to get it off. The flashider was another story! That was on even tighter, I think I was very close to doing myself some serious damage trying to get that off For that I boiled the kettle (again!) but this time poured the boiling water over the flashider join and managed to get it off. In all it probably took around 2 hours, start to finish, to remove those two parts  When you do manage to get them off the next problem you will encounter is that the outer barrel section and perhaps even the flashider will come loose by themselves while firing your rifle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hey WETTI I've seen some pics of peoples version 3 M4's with the loading nozzle with the 2 orings on it. Are those the CO2 nozzles? If so is there any good estimate of when those would be available? I know you are dealing with other *suitcase* right now but those things look sexy. Â can you show me the pics? Â * I'll probably have to answer this tomorrow... I'm totally pooped & I'm hitting the sack early tonight, sorry... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Wetti I just saw on Airsoft news that WE will launch a large batch of BBs (every grammage)for the GBBs very soon...any info of these BBs? Have they been tested on the M4?  'SNIPER' Grade (BEST there is. Solid core, 0% internal bubbles, tolerance guaranteed at 5.95mm+/-0.01mm)   'ULTIMATE MATCH' Grade & OXYGEN BIODEGRADBALE (<5% internal bubbles, tolerance guaranteed at 5.95mm+/-0.01mm)   'COMPETITION MATCH GRADE' general purpose BBs   * our 'SNIPER' & 'ULTIMATE MATCH' grades BBs are tested & proven to be the BEST choice for ALL our AWSS platforms, incl. the new AWSS SCAR.  ** ALL stock should be available for ordering in June  *** Dealer inquiries please contact via www.weairsoft.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukvdh Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 What exactly is "oxygen biodegradable"? Will these BBs 'vanish' when in contact with oxygen? Â And how long does it take to degrade these BBs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 It seems the receivers pictured a few pages back intended for the Rangers have a much nicer finish than the receivers received by many of us Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theprodigy Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 just got around to installing the LAT bearing set, piston head, nozzle and folding valve. Â Bearing set installed easy and straight forward, if it helped or made the gun run smoother couldn't tell. Looks like it would. Â Piston head was an odd install had to glue the seals on both ends and getting off the original head caused me to damage it. Â Nozzle and valve were on just as tight, scratched the rod removing the original, but didn't stop it from working. My valve was actually a little larger than the original so much, that it wouldn't spring up when pushed against. And it was also warped slightly, CNC.... ok. re-used the original and it moved fine with the new nozzle. Â After all that my gun doesn't work. I'm almost certain its the piston head because it has a whole lot more resistance now when i pull back the charging handle. nothing else would create that much more resistance. The new nozzle isn't fighting its way into the housing. Â So anyways in order for my gun to shoot i pull the trigger nothing happens, then if i pull the charging handle back a little bit it shoots. SOMETIMES. Â Although i will say that when it does shoot it feels like it shoots harder. well wasn't a complete waste i'm sure the nozzle is fine along with the bearings. And as long as i keep the stabilizer i should be able to reuse the original WE design piston head. Â I was going to get the new we co2 nozzle anyways so im not that bad about it. Â does anyone find it weird that the aftermarket support for the WE are by companies not really heard of in the airsoft world. LAT, TSC, PMC, tactical limited??? why hasn't promethues, or deepfire find interest. Even WA has G&P and a few other name brand companies. Â I guess it wouldn't matter if the parts work, but yea.......... STICKING TO WE ORIGINAL PARTS FROM NOW ON/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 j does anyone find it weird that the aftermarket support for the WE are by companies not really heard of in the airsoft world. LAT, TSC, PMC, tactical limited??? why hasn't promethues, or deepfire find interest. Even WA has G&P and a few other name brand companies. Â I guess it wouldn't matter if the parts work, but yea.......... STICKING TO WE ORIGINAL PARTS FROM NOW ON/ Â That's quite simply so because most (better known) aftermarked part producers have apparently decided to run with the WA instead of the WE. Even when it was still just pistols, WE was widely ignored Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyflash Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 What the fresh hell is that !!?? #91 custom part ??? Â http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=9476 Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimkafwan Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Does anybody have the noveske or a madbull ras on his gun? I can't get that frickin barrel nut on there because there's no F+++ tool in the world for it.  You can use this kind of wrench: http://www.airsoftpost.com/universal-barre...ds-p-27029.html  Any pricing informations?(especially for the 0.28g)  Repack madbull peut etre vu les grammages et noms... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 What the fresh hell is that !!?? #91 custom part ??? Â http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=9476 Â Was discussed a few pages back, here. Â Seems to be another one of those mostly useless parts. I want steel barrels, now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Involved6 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 @ Wetti: Haven't heard or seen a Co2 M4 yet here on the forums. maybe they're so good they just don't break  As far as I know, no one has them in stock yet. At least, Horizon Tactical does not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukvdh Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Completely off topic (and not...): Â German government is going to ban paintball (because of a shooting incident with many dead people in a school). Â I'm affraid 'airsoft' is next. Because reason they gave is "paintball mimics killing people". I guess airsoft does the same (when talking skermish, collecting replicas (like I do) is not the same, but it will be hard to differenciate in a law I guess). Â I'm not living in Germany, but I just wanted to share this 'news'. I think Germany is one of the "most airsofted" European countries (although they have strict technical rules in their weapon-law). When they have to shut down airsoft (like they will have to shut down paintball) there is a big market going away for manufacturers. Â And I wander if this will have (large) impact on production. Â WETTI any idea yet? WE? "You"? Â Â Â And to get on topic again: any news on CO2 parts needed yet? Availability? ATA? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) What exactly is "oxygen biodegradable"? Will these BBs 'vanish' when in contact with oxygen? And how long does it take to degrade these BBs? Suffice to say that oxygen biodegradable also means "can be oxidized" much like how iron turns to rust (ferric oxide). The usual bio-bbs afaik are moisture biodegradable hence why they get deformed when accidentally made wet. How fast these new bbs actually degrade would be entirely dependent on what they're made of. Technically speaking though, even the typical non-bio bbs that are made of plastic can also degrade but through photodegradation (non bio) but takes really long.  After all that my gun doesn't work. So anyways in order for my gun to shoot i pull the trigger nothing happens, then if i pull the charging handle back a little bit it shoots. SOMETIMES. Are you just getting a "click" after pulling the trigger? Your valve knocker (#61) might not be resetting fully during the cycling of the bolt. Edited May 9, 2009 by renegadecow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newcomer Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 +- .01mm? You sure? Sounds like it's a much much better grade than SGM??? Damn if the tol spec is that good I'm ditching SGM for WE sniper grade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Ok I finally managed to get my outer barrel front end off (not without some damage to the paint ) But I have another minor issue with the CQBR stabiliser and the flash hider. Which way round does the stabiliser go? might seem like a daft question but no matter how I try I can't get the flash hider bird cage to line up correctly. Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 I'd love to know this also! Where should it be positioned too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) OK next problem. Just tried to put my valve guide stabiliser on, the internal diameter appears way too small for the two guide rods I have so I am struggling. Will another be the same I wonder? How have others found this fit? How have you gotten round this issue? Â I am having a very bad day trying to get this done. Edited May 9, 2009 by Marky [UE] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukvdh Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) OK next problem. Just tried to put my valve guide stabiliser on, the internal diameter is way too small for the two guide rods I have so I can't use it. Will another be the same I wonder? How have others found this fit? How have you gotten round this issue? Â I am having a very bad day trying to get this done. It should not be this hard to get components designed for the WE M4 to work together!!! Â I don't know the English terms for some things I want to explain... But I'll try. Â If you look at the guide rod, there are 2 little holes. On my original WE-guide-rod there was some "exess material" (don't know the word), some material sticks out, the holes are not nicely "finished". This is a "PRO" :-) ! Â I used that rough finish on those holes to get some material out of the stabilizer, just by turning and turning and turning... The roughly finsh acts as a "file" or a sand-paper. And after turning for a while (and moving the guide rod up and down while doing so) the passage in the stabiliser was widened enough to fit the rod. Â I hope this is clear enough. Â If you want I could explain this in Dutch, that would be easier fore me :-) . Edited May 9, 2009 by lukvdh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimkafwan Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 +- .01mm? You sure? Sounds like it's a much much better grade than SGM??? Damn if the tol spec is that good I'm ditching SGM for WE sniper grade. Â It seems to be a repack from madbull's bbs feedbacks are usually goods. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky [UE] Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Thanks for the feedback. I have just finished doing pretty much what you describe. I had to hammer the spare guide rod casing through the stabiliser to remove some of the internal material. Then I sanded to a polish both the guide rod casing rough edges and the internal faces of the stabiliser. I had to fit and unfit everything a couple of times to amend the polish and fit but have just finished fitting it. Well that was fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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