evilhippy Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I have to say that while I am totally opposed to Chinese knockoffs I also totally respect the desire to have all the various models in your collection. What I REALLY object to is when people start telling us alkl that their Chinese knockoff that cost 1/4 of the price of the regular "elitist" models is actually a better gun, even when it is made from poor quality materials and hasn't got any respectable level of Quality Control. Apart from being wrong, it is just plain retarded. I guess my philosophy would be something like: `Own whatever you like, enjoy it, be happy with it; but don't try to tell people who have spent far more time & money than you on their stuff that what you have is somehow better, cheaper, and more effective than theirs and that therefore you are somehow better than 'em.` This is not aimed at anyone, I just thought I'd weigh in with my contribution while we're here As I can't be arsed to think of what to get pics of, does anyone want to see anything in particular? I got plenty to choose from Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Field stripped Bren and markings. Link to post Share on other sites
1911 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I have to say that while I am totally opposed to Chinese knockoffs I also totally respect the desire to have all the various models in your collection. What I REALLY object to is when people start telling us alkl that their Chinese knockoff that cost 1/4 of the price of the regular "elitist" models is actually a better gun, even when it is made from poor quality materials and hasn't got any respectable level of Quality Control. Apart from being wrong, it is just plain retarded. I guess my philosophy would be something like: `Own whatever you like, enjoy it, be happy with it; but don't try to tell people who have spent far more time & money than you on their stuff that what you have is somehow better, cheaper, and more effective than theirs and that therefore you are somehow better than 'em.` This is not aimed at anyone, I just thought I'd weigh in with my contribution while we're here As I can't be arsed to think of what to get pics of, does anyone want to see anything in particular? I got plenty to choose from <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said! Off all the guns in that pic, the AEG to be exact, only the TM and Cybergun are used for skirmishing, everything(AEG) else are pretty much useless. As for handguns, I've never get the chance to buy any of the cheap GBB knockoffs. Ie. WE, KJ, etc. But my brother did, he bought one of the WE hicapa variants, it broke only after less than 500 shots. I bought a metal slide kit (WE) for the TM 1911 with the white marking, the nozzle bent making it unable to load BBs into the chamber, that only after less than 100 shots. But again, for display purposes, they're a good alternative. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I rank some of the KJ and HFC guns higher than a lot of the the Marui, KSC versions as it happens. KJW G23 is one of my standard `issued out` skirmish guns that I lend to people as it is simple, reliable, powerful and so far has had among the fewest problems of all my pistols The real cheap knockoffs by Cybergun et al are what I would consider as inferior, because they are. KJ stuff is dodgy, so is some of the HFC/WE gubbins, but it doesn't cost much less than the Marui handguns, for example, because where the extra value come from is that fact that you get metal slides & frames for basically the same kinda price as the plastic TM guns. They still are not as reliable though, and I have only a few of these, mostly to, just like yourself, bolster the collection and make sure I have a usable-if-not-entirely-amazing model of that particular gun. Tommy - the BREN can't really be field stripped unfortunately. I'll see if I can get the camera to focus real close like, try and get the markings and suchlike for ya though Anyone else? Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Oh my!! I've been wanting to say the same thing for a while now. People get flamed for asking normal questions, or if you show the slightest "weakness" in your airsoft knowledge, you're doomed!! I'm fine with chinese knockoffs tho Sorry for the off-topic.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi 1911, you are so right. I once posted a photo in the Pictures thread and stated as a caption that "I wouldn't know all the whistle and bells" shown in that photo, because that photo showed friends of mine. As a result I was asked "what are you good for on these boards". How stupid is that ?! I take it from your early registration and still relatively few posts that you are indeed one of the endangered species here called quality members. Take it like me and hope Arnie will return and give the forum a thorough clean sweep. It's really needed. Link to post Share on other sites
1911 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) Yup!! Agreed!! I only have one thing to say... "It is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" Edited October 11, 2006 by 1911 Link to post Share on other sites
Crenna Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Star UMP with Mil-Spec PVS-14 Gen III NVG: Link to post Share on other sites
Crenna Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Another picture, Systema A3 with Aimpoint CompM and PVS-14: Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Yay, night vision. Link to post Share on other sites
dirtyharry.44 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Here's my contribution. All mine, except the AEGs(S-system is mine ). Theyre my brother's. What is his, is mine, and what is mine isn't his. LOL... SO yes, they're all mine!! Most of them are cheap chinese made, but they're great for collection. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I take it u like 1911's as much as I like saa's Link to post Share on other sites
trfo2o Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 PVS-22 FTW Link to post Share on other sites
canizzle Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Any of you tried an UMP with M203 like the one in the Matrix? Link to post Share on other sites
Godofwar Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Here is my latest acquisition TM AK47 with Guarder woodkit Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Any of you tried an UMP with M203 like the one in the Matrix? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There ya go. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) What Matrix film was there a UMP with an M203? Edited October 12, 2006 by hitmanNo2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tek-Spec Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Mine at the mo, not finished yet. Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Nice, I admire your ability not to fill every rail with accessories Link to post Share on other sites
chillindrdude Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) my new MILSPEC project. half done, awaiting internal upgrades your suggestions (mainly titleist et al.) for how i can make it even more authentic would be suggested i've got a LMT BUIS, Knight Armament Rail Covers, and TangoDown vertical grip coming soon my goal with this project is to make it virtually indistinguishable from the real issue M4 Edited October 12, 2006 by chillindrdude Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Not sure what you're going for. However when I stripped down my M4 I ditched certain elements that were more civilian rather than military. i.e LMT and magpul ladder covers are definitly more civilian. Ditch your scope riser. I find that 95 percent of vertical foregrips in use are KAC based, I'm still waiting to see a TD vertical grip in the field. I think with some minor re-tooling your gun could look more authentic, however frankly who am I to judge. Keep in mind it's YOUR gun, and frankly it comes down to what feels best in your hands. My gun is quickly interchangeable between a USAF PJ setup and a USMC FR setup. I.e the KAC grip and A/N PEQ stay on, but I'm just swapping rear BUIS and scopes (ACOG/EO552). My best advice is to look at military pictures and look for setups that look good to you. Don't be affraid of simple. But also don't be strangled by HAVING to have your gun look exactly like someone else's. Link to post Share on other sites
chillindrdude Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 thanks for the heads up yup, will be ditching the riser and magpul ladder covers. what do you recommend for a rear BUIS then? i'll be procuring some KAC rail covers and vfg soon... Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 ARMS 40, that's kind of the de facto rear sight for most operators. Link to post Share on other sites
chillindrdude Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 revision 2 Link to post Share on other sites
WarMonger Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) My SAW Edited October 12, 2006 by WarMonger Link to post Share on other sites
hendrix Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 looks good but personally id take the light and laser off. other than that it looks great. i'm assuming you didnt buy the top heatshield and lower heatshield? Link to post Share on other sites
WarMonger Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I bought the RIS. and i made the heatshield myself Link to post Share on other sites
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