BlackHawkHarlequin Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 http://www.airsoftscotland.com/acatalog/M16_and_M4.html Taken from the airsoft scotland website... PLEASE NOTE: Due to the newly enforced ROHS import regulations. We will no longer be importing D-Boys AEG's due to the lead and Chromium-6 content. They have refused to change their manufacturing process for the UK market. Jing Gong have however agreed to make us full metal M4 and M16 models which will be available at the end of September 2008. JG are by far the best quality ACM manufacturer anyway so we have lost only slightly to gain much more in the end I have had a look at other clone orientated retailers and they make no mention of this. so what do you guys make of this? sorry if this has come up before I did search. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 LAWL. Just don't eat the guns. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 yeah personally i dont eat or suck off my AEGs, i dont see the problem with lead or chromium. Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 TM have refused too, you know. So I'm told, anyway. I think pretty much everyone else is following the new regs. As far as I know, this only applies to retailers and private imports will be hunky dorey - just don't quote me on that, I'm going from a single source here EDIT: I think ASCUK have a thread about it. Link to post Share on other sites
ben3265 Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 i suppose they aren't going to change there whole manufacturing process just for one small country in the whole world though but it still seems stupid to me, as PlasticMag said we aren't going to eat them! Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Actually, ROHS is an EU thing - not just the UK. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 ...Do you guys really think you have to eat the guns or put them in your mouth in order to receive the harmful effects of lead exposure? Everytime you handle the gun you're exposed to lead content which is never a good thing. Its the same principle as handling bullets. Always wash your hands when you're done. It does seem a little...dramatic to stop the import of guns that have a very minute lead content but i guess in this day and age where safety is paramount people dont want to take a risk. Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 in this day and age where safety is paramount the people in charge won't let you take a risk. Fixed Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 TM have refused too, you know. Thats becuase they only make plastic guns Well, to be honest and filled with controversy.....I can live without Dboys, I just hope all those GBB rifles and high end rifles toe the line!!!!! Before the flaming torches and pitch forks come out: the TM comment was a joke! Link to post Share on other sites
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Crimson Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 lol wow thats bad news for dboy wont they loose a large market ? This worries me , i have the worst luck (knock on wood), its a good thing i dont own a dboy or JG but for futher reference what about the new TM AK range as they are metal are they safe to handle ? infact what about VFC AK's ? would it be possible to list those or all those guns that are affected please Link to post Share on other sites
demoncase Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Interesting.... I suspect that the lead content is in the alloy used for the bodies to improving the flow during casting... But for the life of me I can't think where D-boys might be using hexavalent chrome as that's specific to hard-chrome plating-maybe for the main cylinder?...as my business' Environmental Auditor I thought ROHS on Chrome 6 applied to the PROCESS not the finished product.... the issue being Chrome 6 plating baths produce a particularly unpleasant-to-deal with Chromic Acid waste stream... The issue may also be to do with what happens to the gun when it's finally broken- technically, containing chrome and lead, it should be classed as hazardous waste All very interesting... Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 ...it is? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 lol wow thats bad news for dboy wont they loose a large market ? This worries me , i have the worst luck (knock on wood), its a good thing i dont own a dboy or JG but for futher reference what about the new TM AK range as they are metal are they safe to handle ? infact what about VFC AK's ? would it be possible to list those or all those guns that are affected please why wouldnt they be safe to handle? and i'm talking about Dboys etc here as well. You're talking as if they're made out of plutonium. they're not... they have a small amount of lead in the alloy, it wont harm you unless you eat the gun, in which case i think lead content will be the least of your worries. VFC shouldnt have any lead. well at least not their AK range. either steel or aluminium. no alloys. Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 why wouldnt they be safe to handle? and i'm talking about Dboys etc here as well. You're talking as if they're made out of plutonium. they're not... they have a small amount of lead in the alloy, it wont harm you unless you eat the gun, in which case i think lead content will be the least of your worries. VFC shouldnt have any lead. well at least not their AK range. either steel or aluminium. no alloys. oh ok cool thanks Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Id be more concerned about tainting after handling metal handrails, personally. Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Lead filled MBKs? NOM NOM NOM -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
REVOA4 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 note to self, don't eat gun. Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFoxRomel Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 ah, don't just love our Chinese brethren and their lead tainted toys? Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Great, now I have to worry about getting lead poisoning while working in my custom shop. I run a little out of home airsoft shop and I spend quite a lot of time with a dremel tool cutting and grinding on metal bodies and other various parts. Needless to say there is a lot of metal powder dust from this process, and I know I always end up inhaling a bit of it. I should really invest in some of those safety masks that cover your nose and month, especially after hearing this news. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Does this mean they wont sell them in US or just UK? I was hopeing to buy a Dboys AK soon =/ Link to post Share on other sites
FearMeansControl Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 do their gearboxes even last long enough to notice the effects of lead poisoning? OHHH BURRRRRRN Link to post Share on other sites
Punkypink Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 nevermind. I got me eyes set on a Real Sword Type 56 anyway Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFoxRomel Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I would think it would be wise to assume that anything from China will have some form of lead in it. Un-unleaded toys and wheat, killing our dogs and our brain cells Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 The dog thing was melamine, which is a plastic product. And apparently been used all over the Chinese industries where stuff has been used to cut costs. Digestion is not the only way to get lead poisoning as has been said. Especially the guys who dremel the metal bodies should be concerned. And plenty of the auminium alloys are nasty to breathe or digest in dust mode as well, so investing in at least filter masks should be first thing to do. Wouldn't be a surprise if US followed UK/EU example here and checked up on the lead content in 'metal toys'. If the MBK has high enough lead content to 'rub off' when handling, though... Link to post Share on other sites
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