Philbucknall Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 (edited) well it finally arrived after 3 weeks in customs! first impressions are very good - the box was in good condition and WGC had packed everything in bubble wrap too thus making sure it arrived scratch free. external features are rock solid and the stock extends/retracts nicely and the cheek piece feels very sturdy when compared to the DBOYS one i used to have. I will swap the pistol grip for a MIAD or MOE one when i get some more money. I have fitted a AN-PEQ15 and eotech 553 sight already and they are sturdy and finish the look nicely. takedown is as easy as it appears on the videos on youtube and the stock plate seems okay from new - no scratches or cracks although i will be using it at the weekend and will check again. I have got some photos which i will try to upload later today or over the weekend. the nozzle is steel and the CO2 version. i will be using this with propane though and report back next week re gas efficiency and fps in the good old UK! So far it all looks very good and i am very happy with it. UPDATE okay I skirmished with it today in our lovely UK summer ie pouring rain and approx 13-15 degrees celcius and with 0.2g BB's it was doing 340fps and 299 with 0.30g BB's. The hop was okay stright out of the box and it shot much straighter and further than the WE M4 did out of the box. I think by the end of the day it was a little warmer but still in my sites limits. I easily managed a whole mag on one charge of propane but even with the TS One mag catches fitted the bolt didn't always lock back. I can also confirm that the kick is harder than the M4, which i guess certainly contributes to the broken stock plates, although so far so good on that front after 8 mags or so. It seems to be intact still. Also, be aware on the bolt handle when holding it as it nearly took a finger off having been used to the M4! It's a mistake you'll only make once though! so all good still - I will be using it much more again in a couple of weeks so i'll do a more in depth review of it after that. some photos, sorry about the quality of some of them! Edited August 5, 2009 by elrey continuity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Thanks for the review! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 no problem, I'll do a more indepth one at the end of the month when i've done a weekender with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokenghosts Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Nice review , love using a gbb in the rain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baggard Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 thnks for the review! i hope someone is making a gbb fn fal soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
l85 guy Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 DO real steel grips fit? You mentioned some grips, but you didn't say if they were real steel or airsoft versions. I think I may be looking into one of these, the price is okay, I was gonna go for the AGM M4 until I read that the BBs just roll out when pointed down. My only quirk is it doesn't have a working bolt catch. Also, do you know if the CO2 is reinforced in anyway compared to the GG/propane version, or is the only difference in the mags they bring? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) Yes, RS pistol grips fit. The CO2 and the Green Gas versions only differ in the mags they come with. Its the same material, same reinforcement, same gun. Edited August 10, 2009 by Revenge Seeker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosuzu Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Is your Stock Hinge Connection Plate for WE SCAR Gas Blowback Rifle(I dunno what they call it) of the mainbody breaking apart? I hear its a common problem :\ ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaKe_NZ Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 This is a weird question, but How well do these GBBs work being a bit dirty (mud etc) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Have you tested with the Co2? I've heard that some have had their stocks broken (with the Co2) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Sorry, but I couldn't edit, I sent a mail to WE about the stock breakage on the co2 version, heres the reply There's only one version of the SCAR. The stock breaking issue has been corrected by reinforcement of the part (stock plate) with thicker material & steel ribs. So you're safe to buy now & use both Co2 & green/top gas with the gun. Kindest Regards, WE Tactical Training International Looks like it's safe. And I hope they don't lie about it only so sell more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josiah Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Where did you get a scar that shoots 340fps out of the box? I live in hong kong and all the shops hear tell me their scars are far more powerful then that. Or is that just the difference between 15 degrees and 30 degrees ambient temperatures? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special K Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Most of the folks hee in the States @ 75 to 80*F are getting averages of 350 to 360 FPS. The Butt plate Evike is sending out to thouse that call like me. Is the same one, no steel ribs molded in just the same plastic. Edited August 12, 2009 by Special K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Hmm. Thats Weird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 DO real steel grips fit? You mentioned some grips, but you didn't say if they were real steel or airsoft versions. I think I may be looking into one of these, the price is okay, I was gonna go for the AGM M4 until I read that the BBs just roll out when pointed down. My only quirk is it doesn't have a working bolt catch. Also, do you know if the CO2 is reinforced in anyway compared to the GG/propane version, or is the only difference in the mags they bring? It has the CO2 nozzle anyway - it is just different mags and yes to the RS pistol grips. Is your Stock Hinge Connection Plate for WE SCAR Gas Blowback Rifle(I dunno what they call it) of the mainbody breaking apart? I hear its a common problem :\ ? Not yet. It seems to be holding up okay but I only use propane This is a weird question, but How well do these GBBs work being a bit dirty (mud etc) They love it!!! well it worked all day with no problems anyway - unlike the owner who reallt doesn't work all that well in the rain and mud! Have you tested with the Co2? I've heard that some have had their stocks broken (with the Co2) nope and no intention of doing so either. Where did you get a scar that shoots 340fps out of the box? I live in hong kong and all the shops hear tell me their scars are far more powerful then that. Or is that just the difference between 15 degrees and 30 degrees ambient temperatures? WGC and yes temp can make all the difference you are talking about DOUBLE the ambient temp. Also it appears that the floating valve in the nozzle is very far forward on mine which could contribute to a lower fps, but they could all be like that so i really think it is mainly the temp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaKe_NZ Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Is it possible to adjust the floating valve? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I intend to do what i did with my WE M4, which was use spacers in the nozzle behind the valve to adjust the fps. the spacers are made from an ols AEG cut into little slices! It works a treat! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyatbahay Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Also it appears that the floating valve in the nozzle is very far forward on mine which could contribute to a lower fps, but they could all be like that so i really think it is mainly the temp. mine had the same issue. it was shooting 340-370 with 23s i adjusted it and now it shoots 439 avg on 23s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Evike is truly something. I had a bunch of parts fall out of my trigger assembly, at random, and Kent at Evike has sent me all replacement parts, and even contacted WE about getting certain parts in the assembly. I changed my mind about returning, and well, I hope it tunrs out ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Stick with it! I love mine to pieces - hopefully not literally though!! I just want to find the AAC silencer/flashider combo in the UK in CW threading as i can't justify the cost from WGC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 So Monkeyboy, would you advise this replica? Would a retailer like WGC/Redwolf/UNCompany give the same type (or any) support like Evike does? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I would recommend this but not to anyone who is expecting AEG like performance and reliability without having to tinker a little; which is half the fun for me and the big draw gas rifles have for me. if they do need tinkering it is a whole lot less involved than stripping a gearbox down that's for sure. it seems to be more accurate than the M4 and kicks more in the shoulder - which probably contributes to the broken hinge plates we are seeing. however, if you treat this as a consumable part, which is less than ideal i know, then i am sure you won't be disappointed. As to WGC's customer service, i have never used it after a purchase so i could not comment on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I'd highly recommend it. The mods being done seems relatively cheap and not too difficult. Mines still in one piece but thats because I don't have much time to use it lately. For anyone who fired an inokatsu GBB and the WE SCAR, how do they compare? I've been watching youtube vids on GBBRs and it looks like the inokatsu is the only GBBR that delivers the same amount of recoil as the WE SCAR. All the others look pretty.... pathetic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) I'd highly recommend it. The mods being done seems relatively cheap and not too difficult. Mines still in one piece but thats because I don't have much time to use it lately. For anyone who fired an inokatsu GBB and the WE SCAR, how do they compare? I've been watching youtube vids on GBBRs and it looks like the inokatsu is the only GBBR that delivers the same amount of recoil as the WE SCAR. All the others look pretty.... pathetic. Let the flame... BEGIN. Update with Evike. I got the correct part, the hinge plate, and well, in case my stock button breaks, I got that too. My spare magazine also came through. Same for anyone else?? To Schaap: Not at all. Regarding the WE SCAR, no one has CS like Evike Edited August 15, 2009 by BrooklynBorn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mysl1 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 All the others look pretty.... pathetic. 2/10. Nice try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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